2006 - Planning Commission - Agendas & Minutes CITY OF SPRING PARK
• SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 11, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—October 12, 2005
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Preview Presentation by K Hovnanian(Park Hill/Park Island Site)
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Meeting— 12/5/05
• b) Special Council Meeting- 12/7/05
c) Special Council Meeting— 12/12/05
d) Council Meeting— 12/19/05
e) Special Council Meeting— 12/21/05
f) LMCD Re: Milfoil Demo Project Public Meeting— 12/14/05 (Mailed)
g) Building & Sign Report December
h) Channels 8 &20 Schedules January
i) January Calendar
j) Budget 2006
k) Appointments 2006
1) 2005 Year End EMV Property Type Table—(Payable 2006)
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 11, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Klein, Mason, Maloney and Ex-officio Hughes were present and Mork
Bredeson and Sippel were excused. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl, Office
Assistant Farness, and Alan Brixius, City Planner.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Maloney seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—October 12, 2005
Motion by Klein seconded by Mason to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission Meeting October 12, 2005. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Preview Presentation by K Hovnanian (Park Hill/Park Island Site)
Steve Mangold, K Hovnanian, John Harriss, Harriss Architect, and Tom
Goodrum, Schoell & Madson were present for the presentation. Brixius
explained this was going to be a preliminary presentation; the City received the
application for the preliminary plat just a few days before the public hearing for
the moratorium. He said the presentation is to secure any issues the Planning
Commission may have. He pointed out the Council does not want a long list of
items that are not completed when the public hearing takes place.
Brixius said the redevelopment site involves Park Island/Park Hill apartments on
Island Drive, a private street. He displayed and aerial view of the property; the
concept plan presented proposes 150 units, underground garages, larger floor area
• in the units; there would be less units than currently exists. Brixius stated a few
problems have to been identified and have to be ironed out so variances do not
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• have to be obtained. He referred to the letter he distributed dated January 1 Oth and
referred to it as a 15.99 letter, meaning it referred to MN Statute Section 15.99
stating the City has 60 days to develop the zoning application submitted by the
applicant and the City can extend this time to 120 days. The letter states the 60
day extension is being applied to the application by the City to make sure the
process contains a complete application and information is received prior to the
public hearing.
Brixius pointed the site circulation is going to be difficult due too the long narrow
property; the existing road goes off the plat onto Marina Shopping Center
property to the east and has to be changed or an easement obtained. He said the
street should be at least 24 feet wide so fire vehicles can turn around, etc and
accommodate aerial fire trucks; traffic circulation for day to day activities have to
be accommodated i.e. garbage and trash haulers, moving vans, etc. Anderson
verified the existing conditions do not accommodate this.
Brixius also pointed out building setbacks have to be addressed especially along
the county road; site lines do not work on one of the current driveways proposed;
ponding areas have to be reviewed; minimizing the narrowness of the lot and
softening the appearance of the height of the building on the east property line
will be addressed. He said one of the moratorium items is building design,
exterior, color, etc. and this has to be specifically defined; the exterior is proposed
• to be predominately brick and glass, with a flat roof. He said it is zoned R-3
(High Density Residential) and the height requirement is 40 feet or three stories.
He said some of the proposed heights show 42 an 48 feet heights; the goal is to
make the heights fit within the zoning requirements. Brixius said a grading plan,
landscape plan, illumination plan, etc. have to be in place before the public
hearing. He referred to page 2 the above mentioned letter and read the
requirements (attached to minutes).
Brixius pointed out the fire official suggested an unencumbered route in back of
buildings on the east side (an emergency access); this has to be considered when
landscape materials for that are being considered; he suggested workshops to
discuss items of concern before the public hearing. Brixius also noted the City
has had extraordinary projects in the last couple of years.
Klein questioned Brixius' opinion of the exterior colors for Lakeview Lofts.
Brixius stated his direction to this applicant was to mute the colors down. Klein
thought the look was dull. Brixius stated he did not think the City would be
prepared for a public hearing in February and a Predevelopment Agreement has to
be in place.
Mangold asked for questions. Mason verified with Mangold there would be two
purchase agreements. Mason asked the likeliness of the project actually
• happening. Mangold said he had hopes the project is something the City will
embrace. Mason said he spoke with someone that has an 18 month lease and
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• asked how this would be handled. Mangold said tenants would be given a 60 day
notification and it should be clear to the tenants soon that something is going on
with the property.
Maloney asked the current tenant occupancy and Mangold did not have an answer
because he does not hold the leases. Maloney thought the notification time
seemed like a short amount of time. Klein asked if there was a state law that an
owner has to notify tenants that a building has been sold and this was unknown.
She thought the owner should give the tenants a heads up. Mangold pointed out
the owner wants to keep the vacancy at a minimum and protect his situation if he
does not close on the sale. He added it is a balancing act on everyone's part.
Brixius stated the Predevelopment Agreement is a good indicator the project
would go forward.
A resident of the apartment complex was present. He stated he has lived there for
15 years. He said he sent note with his rent asking the owner what is going on
and was told not to worry about his place to live. The resident said he would like
to take a trip for two months this winter and wonders if he should be looking for a
place to live instead and would need time to find an appropriate place, does not
have a lot of money to do this, and would appreciate as long a time as possible.
Maloney asked when Mangold expected to take possession of the property.
Mangold pointed out other permits have to be obtained i.e. from the DNR, MCW,
• LMCD, etc. and preliminary plat approval has to be given. He thought the
earliest closing on the property would take place in June with a 60 day notice to
tenants going out in April.
The resident asked if there are wetland consequences. Mangold said they have to
work around the boundaries of the wetlands. Mason asked if they are going to do
the project all at once. Mangold said they would prepare the full lot all at once
and there are a lot of things to consider at the same time. He pointed out two lake
buildings and one road building might be done first followed by the other lake and
road buildings.
Harriss said they are committed to having the best built project in the City and the
top of their list is to be stewards of the land; they are using low impact
development techniques; the final elevations will be more detailed; they are using
a lot of texture on the buildings; all exterior materials are permanent; there is
variation in height and plane; they plan to have a boardwalk thru the wetlands.
Mason asked if the would be changing the grading of the land. Goodrum said the
elevations would be much the same and they are building according to the lay of
the land they currently have to work with.
Harriss said the first floor elevations are close to ground level, underground
parking will have two spaces per unit; they hope to minimize surface parking; the
• parking is equally distributed in each building; there would be a green roof area to
make sure they meet the impervious requirement. Goodrum said there would be a
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significant change in grade with Island Drive. He said it would be flatter than it
currently is now.
Maloney asked if the building would be a wood frame building. Mangold said
yes and the walls would be reinforced concrete and floors would be pre-cast
concrete. Maloney verified all units would be owner occupied versus rental units.
Mason asked if there would be an entity on the property for affordable housing
and was told no. Evalina pointed out the City is losing 157 affordable housing
units. Mason asked if there was any way to accommodate tenants that have lived
there a long time. Mangold said this issue is with the owner. Klein verified there
would be no closing on the property until the City approves the final plat and
Predevelopment Agreement is in place.
Mason asked if there would be a road around the lake. Brixius said the concept
plan shows trails and there has to be fire access points and the unencumbered
areas have to accommodate the necessary length to drag an attached fire hose.
Fire access elements were briefly discussed. Mason referred to the water pressure
in Lakeview Lofts and asked if there would be a problem with these buildings.
Brixius said the fire inspector did not have access to all of the information and is
reviewing all of the fire protection elements.
Mason asked the status of the existing sewer line on the property. Goodrum said
• they are reviewing the sewer lines and changes in a lift station would not be
involved. Brixius said they are planning on looping the 6 inch water main with a
new 8 inch water main. Maloney verified the plans do not meet City building
height requirements. Harriss pointed out this is not something they cannot
overcome and they want to stay within the ordinance requirements.
Mason asked if they could use survey numbers for the median. Brixius said he
could show those to Mason. He added the starting points for the surveys should
be on the site rather than off the site. Brixius said he would illustrate a cross
section. Klein asked if there would be a problem with a wider road. Harriss said
they possibly would have to adjust the location of the buildings to the east.
Brixius said this is another issue to work thru.
Mason pointed out amenities were pointed out at the recent Council Meeting and
asked if they would be for the entire property. Harriss said the concept is a whole
community and shared by all residents; each building will have a community and
exercise rooms and trails would go around the shoreline; there would be a pool
area with whirlpool, barbeque area for all to use. He said that 70% of the
shoreline has to remain undeveloped. Mason asked if they would maintain any
ownership. Mangold said ongoing ownership would occur until the last sale takes
place and then it would be turned over to the Homeowner's Association. Mason
asked if there would be any on land boat storage and was told no.
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6. PLANNING COMMISSION
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Meeting— 12/5/05
Klein noted the public hearing for the (Truth in Taxation) TNT was not published
in the Laker. She was told it does not have to be published,just posted at the post
office, Wells Fargo in Spring Park and at City Hall.
b) Special Council Meeting- 12/7/05
c) Special Council Meeting— 12/12/05
d) Council Meeting— 12/19/05
Mason noted his named was excluded in the list of those present.
e) Special Council Meeting— 12/21/05
f) LMCD Re: Milfoil Demo Project Public Meeting— 12/14/05 (Mailed)
g) Building & Sign Report December
h) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules January
i) January Calendar
j) Budget 2006
k) Appointments 2006
1) 2005 Year End EMV Property Type Table—(Payable 2006)
j) Council meetings on video LMCC
Hughes noted Council Person Williamson wm lobbied hard for this and Spring
Park is the first City in this program.
• 7. MISCELLANEOUS
Anderson noted a Chair and Acting Chair has to be chosen and recommended
postponing this until the next meeting when there is a full Commission and the
Commissioners agreed.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Mason seconded by Anderson to adjourn the meeting at 8:23 p.m.
All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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• 4800 Olson Memorial Highway, Suite 202, Golden Valley, MN 55422
Telephone: 763.231.2555 Facsimile: 763.231 .2561 planners@nacplanning.com
January 10, 2006
Steve Mangold
K. Hovnanian Homes
8519 Eagle Point Blvd.
Suite 190
Lake Elmo, MN 55042
Re: Spring Park— Providence on Lake Minnetonka
NAC File: 175.01 05.14
Dear Mr. Mangold:
Spring Park staff met this week to conduct a preliminary review of your proposal for the
Park Hill and Island site in Spring Park. The following is a list of issues that should be
addressed prior to our comprehensive review of your proposal and preparation of a
• report for the Planning Commission (public hearing) and City Council. Our intent is to
resolve as many of these issues as possible prior to our comprehensive review so that
the planning report will contain very few conditions of approval per expectations
expressed by the Council and Planning Commission.
In considering the size and scope of this project and the level of attention needed to be
given to this project by City staff, the City is extending its review period by 60 days
pursuant to Minnesota Statute Section 15.99, Subd. 3(f). The application was received
by the City on December 27, 2006. With the 60 day extension, the Spring Park City
Council will make a determination on your application by April 26, 2006.
Issues to be resolves prior to Public Hearing
1. Preliminary plat must be revised to show:
a. Permanent road and utility easements through adjacent property. These
easements must be obtained before the project can go forward.
b. A ten (approx.) foot utility/road easement along Shoreline Drive. Actual
size to be finalized after comments are received from the County.
c. All wetland areas and those areas not associated with individual buildings
platted as Outlots.
d. 100 foot frontage of each building lot on the road.
2. Submission of building material samples for all materials to be used including the
. manufacturers specifications for such materials. All color samples must be on
sample boards not less than four feet by four feet in size.
• 3. Revision of building height to show compliance with the maximum 40 foot height
requirement. Height is measured from the mean ground elevation to the roof line
of a flat roof. Entrance areas to underground parking garages are not included in
the calculation. Please note that if this requirement is not met, an application for
a variance for building height will be needed.
4. Elevations showing the height of the buildings with respect to the ordinary high
water level.
5. Revision of the Site Plan to show:
a. All roads to be a minimum 24 foot width to support emergency vehicle
access. If a hydrant is located on a road, then the road must be 26 feet in
width per fire code requirements.
b. Provision of road an access/staging area for fire aerial trucks for each
building per fire code requirements. A minimum turning radius on all
access roads as approved by the fire inspector for emergency vehicle
access per fire code requirements.
c. A dry hydrant system for boat/dock fire protection.
d. Revision of the approximate 13 foot high retaining wall along the eastern
edge of the property (between Buildings C & D) with multiple landscaped
terraces to mitigate the scale of the wall.
e. Loading areas. (Note that no parking/loading will be permitted along
access roads; provision for loading must be made in parking areas or in
other locations not on the access road).
• f. Waste management/trash enclosure areas.
g. Location of all trails and raised walkways through wetlands.
h. Pedestrian access/entrance to Building D from north guest parking lot.
i. Safe and visible ingress and egress from underground garage of Building
D. The current combination of slope, angle and length of ramp is not
acceptable.
j. Pedestrian trail connection to the adjacent shopping center with
responsibility for maintenance in homeowners' association documentation.
It is recognized that this requires cooperation from adjacent landowner.
6. Revision of Grading Plan to show elimination of wall along Shoreline Drive.
7. Submission of Landscape Plan that:
a. Shows an "approved" fire access route around all buildings; the fire code
requires a maximum distance of 150 — 200 feet from staging area.
b. Reduces visibility of buildings as viewed from public waters (through use
of landscaping, earth-tone building colors, etc.).
c. Shows details for rainwater gardens with elevations demonstrating
capacity to treat and filter runoff above high water level.
d. Shows design intent for entire site (species, size, quantity, and location of
plantings).
8. Submission of a lighting plan including photometrics, and proposed pole and
fixture types.
9. Submission of a title report.
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10. Response to items listed in letters from the City Engineer dated January 9 and
January 10, 2006 (attached).
11. Execution of the application by the current property owner as well as the
proposed developer.
12.Execution of a Predevelopment Agreement by the City, the proposed developer
and the current property owner.
13. Temporary construction easements as necessary to provide adequate
construction storage and staging areas for the project.
Additionally, the following issues will need to be addressed at some point in the
development process.
• An escrow for future public streetscape improvements along Shoreline Drive will
be needed. This amount has yet to be determined but will contribute to municipal
improvements being planned along Shoreline Drive.
• Homeowner Association documents must include acceptable language taking
responsibility for road, sidewalk and pedestrian trail maintenance and funding.
• The vacation of old utility easements will require a public hearing in front of the
City Council.
We look forward to working with your development team to address these issues.
Please note that additional issues may arise during our comprehensive review of your
revised plans. We will schedule a public hearing to present the preliminary plat and site
plan review to the Spring Park Planning Commission after all issues have been
substantially addressed.
Sincerely,
Al Brixius
cc: Spring Park City Council
Spring Park Planning Commission
Head, Seifert & Vander Weide, City Attorney
Schoell & Madson, City Engineer
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES OF SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE
SPRING PARK CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD JANUARY 30,2006, 7:00 P.M. AT CITY HALL
City Council Members in Attendance: Mayor Jerome Rockvam, Gary Hughes, Sarah
Reinhardt, Joanna, Widmer, Bruce Williamson
Planning Commission Members in Attendance: Bill Anderson, Jean Mork Bredeson,
Evalina Klein, Sera Maloney, Mike Mason, Doug Sippel
Staff in Attendance: Bill Weeks, City Administrator/Clerk/Treasurer
D.J. Goman, City Utility Superintendent
Alan Brixius,Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc.
Dan Petrik, Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc.
Ken Adolf, Schoell &Madson
Tom Seifert, Head, Seifert &Vander Weide
Nancy Beck, Head, Seifert&Vander Weide
• Summary
On January 30, 2006 at 7:00 p.m., the Spring Park City Council and Planning
Commission held a special joint meeting at City Hall with Northwest Associated
Consultants, Inc., the City Planner, and Head, Seifert&Vander Weide, the City
Attorney. The meeting was conducted in a workshop format. The purpose was to
discuss the work done to date with respect to the study of the City's zoning code that the
City Council requested the City Planner and City Attorney to conduct pursuant to
Resolution 05-39 adopted on December 19, 2005.
Providence on Lake Minnetonka.
Dan Petrik first gave a brief review of the status of the Providence on Lake Minnetonka
project. The Planner has had two staff meetings with the redevelopment group so far.
The intent of the Planner is to work with the redevelopment group in advance so that any
issues with the project can be handled prior to bringing the project to the Planning
Commission and Council for approval. The issues being discussed now are the tightness
between the buildings and the east property line, garage access, and access from the
buildings to the lake. The determination of whether the project will be ready for public
hearing on March 8th will be determined at the Planner's next meeting with the
redevelopment group to be held on February 81h
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING— 1/30/06
• Mayor Rockvam stressed the importance of notifying the current tenants of the property.
The developer has a provision in its purchase agreement with the property owner, Mike
Gorra, that the developer cannot notify the tenants without Gorra's consent. Gorra must
be advised that if he does not notify the tenants about the project, the City will do it.
Construction Standards and Phasing Plan
Alan Brixius, the City Planner, led this portion of the meeting. He presented a draft
Construction Standards and Phasing Plan and asked for input from the Council and
Planning Commission regarding what they did and did not like about the Plan. He said
that the next workshop meeting will address landscaping, setbacks, and architectural
standards.
Brixius stated that the first step taken was to review the current ordinance. It doesn't go
far enough, especially for large construction projects. Brixius also stated that municipal
nuisance ordinances generally are not extensive enough to cover the possible issues that
may arise during a large scale construction project. The proposals contained in the draft
Plan include more effective enforcement methods regarding construction operations. We
are looking for enforcement mechanisms that will avoid the necessity of a court process.
Construction Staging Standards Summary
• Parkin
It should be a required part of the construction plans to delineate employee parking. This
is required for enforcement. The developer will have to determine the maximum number
of employees that will be at the project site at any time and provide for adequate on-site
or off-site parking. Williamson suggested that this provision be clarified. Mayor
Rockvam stated that under certain circumstances employees could park off-site and be
shuttled in. Brixius stated that the Council may want to retain some discretion regarding
off-site parking.
The issue of"public access" as used on page 1, section (2)(ii) of the Plan was discussed.
Brixius stated that it addressed safe access to public streets.
Goman raised the issue of sales office and parade of homes situations. The ordinance
needs to deal with parking and access regarding these issues. Williamson added that the
developer should include this as a part of the staging plan. Brixius stated that it would be
good to add something about this to the ordinance since it will cause the developer to
think about the issue which it otherwise may not be thinking about at this stage of the
process. Brixius will add a provision in this regard to the Plan.
On-street parking was also discussed. Signage should be required at the developer's
expense.
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• Public access.
Hughes raised the issue of utilities construction blocking public streets. He asked if this
issue could be dealt with here. Brixius stated that traffic control may be necessary;
flagman, etc. Public access will be interrupted during utility work because the work is
done in the public right-of-way. There is also blockage of streets when materials are
being delivered to the project site. The developer should have a plan in place regarding
minimizing blockage of public streets. Brixius will cover this under the loading and
staging portion of the Plan.
The issue of employee parking was raised again. It was asked if requiring one space per
employee is excessive? The response was that is seems like most construction workers
drive large vehicles like pick up trucks and that they don't seem to car-pool much. We
should look at this conservatively. The question was also raised regarding what
constitutes "employment"triggering the parking requirement. Are deliveries included
here. Mayor Rockvam stated that the City will have to rely on the developer to give the
number of employees.
Exhaust and Emissions.
Brixius gave a summary of the exhaust and emissions provisions. No method of
measuring exhaust and emissions is included in the Plan; it is too hard to quantify. The
• developer will be required to have a plan to mitigate emissions. For example, erosion
control, watering, wind-breaks (e.g. temporary staking of plastic tarps), and restrictions
on equipment location. It was suggested that language could be added to the Plan stating
that equipment should be turned off when not in use. Brixius stated that the Plan is
written to give the City discretion,but the lack of measuring devices may make it
difficult to legally enforce. Adolf suggested using MPCA standards for enforcement.
Brixius stated that he does not want to use the MPCA standards. He wants the City to
have discretion both to allow more noise (during permitted hours of operation) and to
prohibit noises that are lower than the MPCA standards after the permitted hours of
operation. Also, the staff does not have the ability to measure emissions.
Enforcement.
The next issue discussed was enforcement of the ordinance. Stop work orders can be
used for violations. Williamson asked how this would work if the stop order causes the
developer to lose money. Is there a potential for liability for the City? For large projects,
the development agreement will include construction operations standards so they can be
enforced contractually. Enforcement can be done by the City Administrator, the Utility
Superintendent and the building inspector. The planner or attorney can provide a form
letter to be used. Also, these provisions can be added to the City Code as well as the
Zoning Ordinance so the police can enforce them as well.
Brixius raised the option of instituting an administrative fine system. The purpose to this
• system is to avoid the time and expense of prosecuting misdemeanors as a means of
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• enforcement of the zoning code. Brixius uses this method for Otsego. The city attorney
will have to review the legality of this option. Williamson suggested that these fines
could be deducted from the developer's escrow. Williamson also suggested that a
confession of judgment could be added to the development agreement for this purpose;
this method is used by the cable companies and telephone companies. Williamson liked
the idea of different levels of enforcement. Mayor Rockvam stated that many problems
are short term and many problems are with subcontractors who have a"wild west"
mentality.
Fencin .
The next topic discussed was fencing. Williamson stated that the term"hazard" should
be defined in the ordinance. Goman stated that requiring a chain link fence is extreme for
some situations; construction netting or a snow fence is acceptable and appropriate for
some situations. Williamson stated that it is important to keep kids out of the
construction area. Mayor Rockvam stated that fencing should be required to secure the
construction site from start to finish. If the entire perimeter of the construction site is
required to be fenced, then the ordinance does not need to deal with individual holes on
the site. In order to prevent trespass, something taller and more secure than a snow fence
is needed. The site boundaries should be secured with a fence,not the property line.
Hours of Operation.
• The current hours of permitted operation are 7 am to 8 pm on weekdays and 8 am to 8 pm
on weekends and holidays. The issue of how to define"holidays"was discussed. The
City may wish to give a 15 minute leeway for parking. Mayor Rockvam stated that
rational sense is needed here; the City cannot deal with every complaint. The difference
between a construction project bringing in a crew of workers at one time and individual
fishermen parking in the morning was discussed. Hughes stated that it should be ok for
construction workers to sit in their trucks and drink coffee before the permitted hours of
construction operation. Mayor Rockvam stated that enforceability and practicality must
be a consideration here. Brixius said that a distinction can be made here. Brixius also
stated that the parking reference here should be deleted.
Seifert suggested giving the Council the right to waive the hours requirements if the
situation warrants it.
Hughes brought up the issue of equipment repair crews working late at night. Brixius
stated that the broad time frame give flexibility.
Mason suggested putting signs on the fence at the entrance points listing the permitted
hours of operation so that the construction crews know the hours. Williamson added that
this will notify the subcontractors of the hours. Weeks asked if we should get input from
the contractors. Brixius said that for most issues, the City does not need the contractors'
input. A suggestion was made that the hours of operation be limited to work outdoors.
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• Litter.
A question was raised about the requirement that all dumpsters have lids. Brixius stated
that lids are important to keep trash inside the containers. Seifert asked about roll-off
boxes; these do not come with lids. Brixius said that he will revise this section regarding
lids.
Mayor Rockvam stated that the developer should be required to assign a person to be
responsible for daily trash pick-up.
Loading and Staging.
Hughes said that off-site loading and staging should be permitted. Brixius stated that he
thought that the City wanted to keep everything on-site; he will revise this section.
Signage for deliveries was suggested; Brixius will add this requirement.
Goman stated that as the project evolves, the staging areas may change. Brixius stated
that for phased developments, the developer will need to provide a staging plan for each
phase.
Goman raised the issue of moving dumpsters. Does the Council want to approve every
• change in dumpster location? Can the City Administrator give this approval? Hughes
stated that changes are okay so long as they don't generate complaints. Brixius added
that the staging plan can be narrative in form rather than graphic, this gives the developer
the option of explaining how the dumpsters will move during the construction process
rather than just showing them graphically in certain locations. Brixius said that the
contractors need to be given reasonable latitude in which to operate.
Noise.
Williamson asked to delete the word "would" from before the word "generate."
The issue of how to handle only one person making numerous noise complaints when no
one else makes complaints was discussed. Brixius will revise this section to state that the
City will investigate noise complaints for noises which occur outside of the permitted
hours of operation.
Streets and Roadways.
Whether the City should hire street cleaning and charge the developers was discussed.
Mayor Rockvam asked that the word "may"be changed to the word "must."
There will be traffic problems with the Providence project because there is only one
• entrance/exit to the site. What control does the City have regarding County 15? Brixius
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• will talk to the County, but believes that it will say that traffic control is the City's
responsibility.
The issue of road maintenance before repaving of the road is required was discussed.
This is a current problem with West Arm Road. Brixius will check the City's right-of-
way ordinance.
Brixius can add a requirement for street interruption permits, flagman requirements, etc.
Enforcement.
Brixius will create a list of options for enforcement; enforcement should not be limited to
stop orders.
Seifert stated that the development contract paragraph should be made a separate
provision and an escrow provision should be added.
Notice should be written and provision for hand delivery should be added.
Hughes asked who the contact person is for enforcement. Williamson said that a
responsible person and an alternate should be required. There has been a problem with
the issue of responsibility at the Lakeview project. The developer and the general
• contractor divide responsibility. Brixius stated that he will include a paragraph requiring
the developer to identify the responsible party. Note that for the Providence project,
Weiss, the Lakeview contractor, will be the general contractor.
Williamson stated that all contractors should be given a copy of all construction rules and
they should be required to acknowledge receipt of the rules.
Mayor Rockvam stated that the City should meet with the general contractor right at the
beginning of the project so both sides know what is expected.
Seifert stated that the stop order is a very important enforcement tool.
Mayor Rockvam stated that it is important to keep in mind that the first two projects were
difficult because the City had no experience with projects of this size. The City was
lucky that both projects had developers who had enough money to finish the projects.
Summary
Brixius summarized the changes that were to be made to the draft. He will redraft the
provisions and request contractor and developer reaction.
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 9:10 p.m.
• Respectfully submitted by Nancy Beck
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. CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 8, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
a) Planning Commission
Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Klein, Sippel, Mason, Maloney were present.
b) Council
Hughes, Reinhardt, Widmer were present and Williamson and Rockvam were
excused. Staff Present: Deputy Clerk Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Mork Bredeson and seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—January 11, 2006
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Mason to approve the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting January 11, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
Mork Bredeson nominated Anderson for Chair. Mason nominated Maloney for
Chair. Anderson called for nominations three more times and having none,
nominations for Chair was closed. Mason asked if they were going to elect a
Chair and Acting Chair separately. Mork Bredeson suggested the person with the
most votes would be Chair and the other person would be Acting Chair. The
Commissioners agreed.
Maloney received four votes and Anderson received two votes on written ballots.
Maloney was declared Chair and Anderson Acting Chair.
• b) Sign Permit Application—Certified Auto Repair
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• Mark Pfleghaar, owner Certified Auto Repair, 4700 Shoreline Drive, was present.
Maloney verified there would be signs on the side of the building. Klein asked if
they would be the same size as the signs for the previous business. Pfleghaar said
the sign would be about the same size. Mork Bredeson asked staff if the
application was in order and was told it was, including an approved parking plan
by NAC.
Motion by Sippel and seconded by Mork Bredeson to approve the sign
permit application for Certified Auto Repair, 4700 Shoreline Drive.
In discussion Mason asked Pfleghaar if he owned the entire property and leased
the car wash. Pfleghaar said he owns the property and operates the car wash
himself. Mason asked if he has plans to improve the property. Pfleghaar pointed
out the City's lift station contractor tore up his property and he has hope they will
make the necessary repairs. He also stated he has to stay within the hardcover
requirements and has to have a parking plan. Mason pointed out the City is
always interested in landscaping, etc. Pfleghaar said he has been meeting with the
Administrator on this and he wants to fix everything. Klein asked if he is going to
keep four car wash stalls and was told yes. Mason asked what upgrades Pfleghaar
is contemplating. Pfleghaar said he has to sandblast the soap scum off the walls
and that would be expensive to do.
• All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. Communications
The following communications were noted:
a) February Calendar
b) March Calendar
c) Building Report—January
d) Special Council Meeting Minutes— 1/3/06
e) Council Meeting Minutes— 1/3/06
f) Council Meeting Minutes— 1/17/06 (to be approved at Council Meeting 2/6/06)
g) Moratorium Workshop Homework
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Mason requested a walk thru tour at the Mist Lofts sometime in March for the
Planning Commissioners around 4 p.m. on a Wednesday or when convenient. Staff
will make the arrangements.
Mason asked if the cameras were available to take pictures around town for the
moratorium meetings. He said he and Council Person Williamson would each like
one. Hughes said he searched on the web and found information for wordology on
architectural design standards. Brixius said he would have a clearer picture of
objectives if he sees pictures.
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• Mork Bredeson stated she appreciates her reappointment to the Planning
Commission and she apologized for any inconvenience her absences may have
caused. She pointed out her record overall for the last 12 years has been good and
she would continue to be conscious of her attendance. Anderson stated Mork
Bredeson makes a great contribution when she is here.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mork Bredeson to adjourn the meeting at
7:19 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
WORKSHOP
PROVIDENCE ON LAKE MINNETONKA
FEBRUARY 8, 2006
The Workshop followed the regular Planning Commission Meeting. The roll remained
the same for the Council and Planning Commission. Others present were Tom Seifert &
Nancy Beck, City Attorney's; Alan Brixius, City Planner.
Present on behalf of the development were: Steve Mangold, K Hovnanian; John Harriss
and Matthew Anderson, Harriss Architect; Tom Goodrum and Kevin Teppen, Schoell &
Madson.
Brixius noted the proposed schedule review for Providence on Lake Minnetonka. He
also noted the City has a 60 day timeline to process the application and this could be and
has been extended another 60 days with permission of the applicant but not beyond 120
days. He said the public hearing would be held on March 8, 2006. He said the deadline
for Council action per the state statute is April 26, 2006.
Brixius pointed out the draft easement agreement between the development and the
property owner on the west side of the property for driveway purposes. He said the
signed easement has not yet been received and we should not go into the public hearing
without it. He said we are going ahead with the publication so we meet the deadline
requirement. Brixius said one major concern is traffic circulation and overall appearance.
He pointed out the east property line elevation at Presbyterian Homes is a concern; the
property is zoned for multiple family; and they have reduced density to 147 units.
Brixius pointed out pre-workshop meetings would identify issues before the public
hearing occurs and he would be issuing a technical review before that meeting also.
Goodrum stated they have addressed most items on the punch list; they have met with the
Mound Fire Chief and addressed issues with the fire department; they have also met with
Hennepin County and discussed street issues. He said they are proposing five buildings;
there would be access to all parts of the property for utilities and emergencies.
Goodrum pointed out there is no current sediment control; they are capturing all the run
off water on the site; it is going to a storm pond for treatment and thru rain gardens that
are natural looking to remove sediments before entering the lake; they would be doing it
decoratively and it would be environmentally sensitive.
Goodrum stated they are meeting all fire code requirements; the access drive is 26 feet
wide and also into the parking lots; there are cut out lanes and a dry hydrant is available
for hard to reach concerned areas; there are no site lines conflicting with vehicles leaving
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• the area; a 13' wall on the east property line is now tiered with boulder walls and
evergreen trees for screening to make a natural setting for the entire site. He added the
lake area would be a natural environmental rain garden, boulder walls and buffered with
landscaping. It would be all natural looking in aesthetics. Mason verified the 26 foot
wide road is for a fire hydrant and room enough for emergency vehicles to maneuver and
there is no conflict with a 20 foot wide road down by lake. Mason asked who would do
the maintenance on the landscaping and the rain gardens. Goodrum said the homeowners
association would be responsible. He said the City could require a schedule for the
cleaning of the ponds.
Harriss pointed out revisions to the turn radius by the lake. He said the building exteriors
would be of natural materials i.e. brick and stone and primarily glass for views of the
lake. He added there would be a courtyard with fountains by the lake with an additional
courtyard by the road and a pool. Sippel referred to the foot print of building C. Harriss
said it was changed on the east side and is less one unit and the height is reduced to 37
feet. Sippel asked if the roadways are curbed. Goodrum said the curb is directed to the
rain gardens. Harriss said all units have underground parking with two stalls per unit; the
north building is 10 feet higher than the south building so the upper units have a view of
the lake from the road and the docks shown on the elevations are not the final
configuration.
Seifert asked how many guest parking spaces and was told .25 per unit. Beach areas
• were noted. Mason asked if there would be underground parking for guests and was told
the underground parking is strictly for residents. Brixius pointed out the parking spaces
have to be sold with the units. Harriss pointed out the bridge between the two buildings
by the road; the colors of the exteriors would be all natural and subdued earth tones.
Mason asked if they were tampering with the vegetation along the lake. Harriss said if
they do, they would bring back the natural feel of the lake. Reinhardt said there was no
area available for beaches. Harriss said they would bring in that element. Reinhardt
pointed out the shoreline would then be disturbed. Harriss said most residents would
most likely use the pool. He said they are trying to create amenities and a central
courtyard.
Mason asked if they have given any thought to adding commercial space. He was told no
and it is hopeful the Marina Center will enjoy renewed life as a result of the development.
The walls around the pool are tiered toward the lake and will have growth on them.
Mason asked if there would be grassy areas. Harriss said they are cutting down on
manicured areas. Mork Bredeson asked if there would be pilings for the new buildings
and was told the soil borings show no need for them.
Brixius asked the lower parking garage elevation in relation to the lake. Goodrum said it
is about four feet above the Ordinary High Water Mark (OHWM) and they are pleased
the grading would be much the same as it is now and they will not have to do a lot of site
work prior to erecting the buildings. Mason asked how the proposed garage elevation
• compared to the current elevation and was told it was similar. Mason asked if there was
any known history of water in the garages. Goodrum said they are not aware of any.
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• Brixius asked when they could furnish building material samples and requested they
would be available for the public hearing on March 8`h. Harriss said they could give as
close a depiction as possible and the only problem would be with unforeseen pricing of
materials. He said the size of the units range from 1,300 to 2,000 square feet. Sippel
asked if the floor plans are identical. Harriss said generally the design is the same or
similar; they all have generous outdoor decks, ceiling heights are 9 feet and the top floors
are 10 feet; all the buildings are wood frame except the lower level.
Hughes asked about the color scheme and how compatible are the two depictions.
Harriss said the elevations are not as close as the depictions. Hughes asked if all the
buildings will have the same look. Harriss said they will try to incorporate variation but
stay within the same palate. He said they want it to blend in especially on the lake.
Hughes asked for a confirmed more accurate sample of materials and colors. Harriss said
he would have three dimensional images on March 8th. Mork Bredeson asked if they are
using low maintenance materials. Harriss said they are using no maintenance materials.
Mason asked if there would be a community aspect within the buildings. Harriss said
they are in the process of determining what and where for community rooms and exercise
rooms. Mason asked if there would be connecting buildings. Harriss said that is not a
practical cost consideration.
Mangold pointed out how to get to the pool from Building 3. There is a separate lobby in
• the parking garage and to get to the docks they created a stone stairway to the docks by
the parking garage. Mason asked if there was a handicapped access or a ramp walkway
at Building 3. Harriss said that would disturb the natural appearance and it would take up
the entire hillside. Goodrum pointed out there is a longer way for a handicapped person
to get to the docks. Reinhardt asked if the docks would be owned or rented. Mangold
said that has not yet been determined. He said if a dock came with a unit, it would add to
the cost. Reinhardt asked how many slips they have. She was told they currently have
52 and the current property owner is applying for the docks. Sippel asked if trailers
would be allowed in the garages. Mangold said if there was room. Brixius
recommended checking with the City to see if this is allowed and if there is enough
parking.
Brixius said the trash is all going to be located inside the buildings in the garages and
there would be no exterior trash. Harris said there would be compactors in some
buildings and chutes for the trash. Hughes asked if there would be a provision for a
playground. Harriss said not at this point. The question was asked if there would be
elevated air compressors and air conditioners. Harriss said no one would see any
mechanical equipment on the roof. Mason asked what happened to the green roofs and
was told the idea proposed too many questions. Mason asked if they were using any new
technology on the mechanicals. Harriss said they intend to provide the highest indoor air
quality possible. Maloney asked if they were going to use in floor heat. Harriss said
there is a cost factor with that. He said the prices for the units would be just under
• $400,000 to $900,000.
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• Hughes asked the cost of the association fees. Mangold said the norm is $.25 per square
foot. Mason asked if the utilities would be included in the association fees and was told
they would.
Brixius asked Harriss to describe the streetscape along the county road. Harriss said
there would be a new sidewalk, light poles to match the ones at the Mist Lofts, plantings
and trees and a short boulder retaining wall. Mason asked if the footprint of the proposed
building on Shoreline is the same as the current building. Harriss said it would be in
about the same spot. Hughes inquired about the light poles. Teppen said the pole height
is the measurement from the light fixture and they are providing a pedestrian feel and
reducing the glare.
Mork Bredeson asked the order of their building plan and what they plan to do first.
Mangold said those logistics are being considered. Seifert asked where their construction
employees are going to park. Mangold said they hopefully could work with the owner of
the shopping center. He said he is meeting with the owner regarding the driveway
easement and he feels this project should be a benefit to both parties. Hughes asked if
they would be keeping all of the construction equipment on site. Brixius suggested a
staging plan be drawn up.
Sippel asked if the signing of the easement is the biggest issue on this list. Brixius said
without the easement they do not control all the land for the development and between
• now and the public hearing we hope to have everything in place. Sippel asked if there
will be clarification of approving the subdivision and the site plan at the public hearing.
Brixius said he would have those details for the public hearing and his technical review
completed. Hughes requested it before the Friday packet. Brixius said he would have it
done by March I"for the Planning Commissioner's review and hopefully have comments
from the county, fire department, the MCWD and DNR.
Mangold said he would download all of the drawings on CD's for the Commissioner's
convenience. Brixius said the objective is to address every issue including the
establishment of a beach; accessibility issue, roof top equipment, playground equipment,
etc. Mason referred to the predeveloper's agreement and asked where those issues are
addressed i.e. TIF. Seifert said there is not TIF with this development. Beck said the
purpose of the predevelopment agreement is the developer agrees they are paying the
City's expenses and both City and developer will enter into a development agreement and
issues will be in the development agreement not the predevelopment agreement.
Brixius asked if there are any concerns with the progression or schedule. Mason
requested the Commissioners notified if there is a change in any aspect of the
development. Mork Bredeson said her concern is the construction phase i.e. equipment,
circulation, etc. Seifert noted there would not be any concrete trucks because it is a wood
framed building. Mork Bredeson said there is a lot of material handling with wood.
Brixius suggested working something out with the Marina Center. Mork Bredeson said
• disruption to the public should be kept at a minimum.
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• Hughes referred to the construction phase and concern with early morning noise that
would pose a problem for Presbyterian Homes. Harriss said the project is 60 feet from
the property line on the east side. Hughes recommended discussing their schedules with
Presbyterian Homes before construction starts. Mangold said he would do this before the
public hearing. Brixius asked if all the buildings would be torn down first and was told
yes. Mangold anticipated one building on the island and one by the road for would be
constructed first. He said they are bringing in a sales office and the location for that has
not yet been determined.
Sippel asked if they were phasing the construction. Harriss said they would be staggering
phases and the total length of time for construction would be 2 %Z and 3 years. Hughes
asked if there would be occupants and construction at the same time. This was not
known at this time. Mork Bredeson asked who was funding the project. Mangold said it
was being funded internally by K. Hovnanian, which is a publicly held company.
Hughes asked if they had plans for the wet land area. Mangold said they are anticipating
a walkway. Brixius said the DNR and the MCWD would have to review that concept.
Mork Bredeson asked how many units would be in the complex. Mangold said there
would be 147 compared to the 156 apartments currently. Klein said she is concerned this
area is becoming more inaccessible to affordable housing and that is a loss to the
community. Someone stated the lake is dictating what is being built. Brixius said
Council Person Williamson raised similar issues. Mason asked if there would be any
way they would build less expensive units on the Shoreline Drive buildings to be more
affordable. Mangold said affordable is relative and Spring Park's figure is higher
because of the lake. Brixius pointed out it might be affordable the first time but the next
seller will raise the price. Reinhardt said every community should have a balance.
Briefly discussed was affordable housing, taxes and lake property and building heights in
relation to property valuation.
In conclusion Hughes asked if there were any other issues. Seifert stated the City wants
to see samples of the exterior materials and the colors. Mangold said they would be
available for the public hearing on March 8th. Brixius said he would have the necessary
technical reports completed. Mangold will make the plans available on a compact disc.
The workshop concluded at 9:20 p.m.
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SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
• SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 8, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —February 8, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Ted Storlie, 4032 Shoreline Drive
b) Variance Application—Brandis Meyer, 2406 Black Lake Road
1. Open Public Hearing
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
• a) E-mail from Bev Crawford, 4317 Rose Hill Lane
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
a) NAC—3/1/06
c) Site Plan Review& Application for Preliminary Plat, K. Hovnanian for(Island Drive)
1. Open Public Hearing
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
a) NAC —3/l/06
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—2/6/06
b) Workshop (Providence on Lake Mtka.)—2/8/06
c) Council Minutes—2/21/06
d) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules March 2006
e) Building Report February
f) Sign Report February
g) Memo Re: CD's Requested (Mailed)—2/13/06
• 7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 8, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Klein, Mason and Maloney and Ex-Officio Hughes were present and Anderson,
Mork Bredeson and Sippel were excused. Staff present: Administrator Weeks,
Deputy Clerk Corl; Alan Brixius, City Planner; Nancy Beck and Tom Seifert, City
Attorney's; Mayor Rockvam and Council Person Reinhardt.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—February 8, 2006
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to approve the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting February 8, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
Chair Maloney introduced the Planning Commissioners and Staff to the public.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Ted Storlie, 4032 Shoreline Drive
Storlie was not present but he submitted three choices of color combinations for
the Commissioners to choose from.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to approve the sign permit
application for 4032 Shoreline Drive and the color choice of blue background
with gray lettering. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Variance Application—Brandis Meyer, 2406 Black Lake Road
Present for this public hearing: Brandis Meyer and Paris Alves, property owners,
• and Jim Clark,builder.
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• Maloney read the responsibilities of the Planning Commission at a public hearing.
1. Open public
a) Notice of Public Hearing
Chair Maloney read the notice published in the Laker Newspaper and
opened the public hearing at 7:08 a.m.
2. Discussion and Comments
a) E-mail from Bev Crawford, 4317 Rose Hill Lane
Meyer stated they are proposing a house that needs six variances; the one big
issue is the public right-of-way on the north side of the property and four of
the six variance requests are because of this right-of-way: the public right-of-
way makes the lot a corner lot; the side yard setback abutting the right-of-way
on the north side is 18 %Z foot and 30 feet is required; lot area and width are a
result of the same set back requirements; the setback on the south is because
of the right-of-way on the north side.
Meyer stated the hardship is the utility easement and the small lot area. She
said the impervious surface requirement is due to the non conforming setbacks
caused by the easement and public right-of-way. She said the height is 33 feet
and that is 2 feet lower than the ordinance requirement but the basement level
is counted as a full story because it is above grade more than 6 feet. She said
is
she is willing to be creative on some of these issues.
Klein asked how long the public right-of-way has been in effect. Maloney
explained the public right-of-way is on the north side of the lot. Brixius stated
it was established when the section was first created on the plat map. He said
in addition to that there is an 18.5 foot setback into the lot from the right-of-
way. He said an existing lot of record is buildable if it can meet the required
set backs and has water and sewer access. He said this lot is constrained by
both the right-of-way and the 18 foot wide easement and without some
variance the lot would not be buildable.
He said they are requesting lot area, lot width and impervious surface and
those conditions would be allowed if they meet the required setbacks and the
hardship is the lot being a corner lot. He pointed out they are proposing the
building right up to the 18 foot right-of-way which is still more than 10 feet
off the north property line; also they are asking for a seven foot easement off
the south property line and there is justification for variance consideration.
Meyer pointed out any other idea to meet the south setback would be to go
into the easement on the north side and they could dig the home deeper to
alleviate the height variance. Mason asked if they were aware of the easement
and was told there is a 10 foot set back on each side. She said their biggest
• concern with the easement is it is larger than first anticipated. Mason asked if
they considered other configurations for the house. Meyer said they could
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• push the house from the south toward the north easement. Klein verified the
proposed footprint would be 1,260 square feet when finished.
Clark stated he had no problem with adjusting the height and he was not
aware of the 30' right-of-way on the north; he could move the house in the ten
foot setback to south and move the garage door by creatively clipping the door
so it does not go into the water/sewer easement. Mason asked if there were
any other configurations. Meyer pointed out they meet the 10 foot
requirement on the back of the lot. Clark said the house could be redesigned
to meet most of the requests except the 30' right-of-way. He said he was
surprised a water main was placed thru a lot. Maloney explained it was a
logical choice at the time because the right-of-way lines up with Rose Hill
Lane.
Meyer asked for a definition of public right-of-way. Brixius said it appears
the platted right-of-way is an unimproved road and he had to do research to
see if the road actually existed. He explained there is an 18 foot wide
easement and a right-of-way. Brixius said from his prospective, a 30 foot set
back is needed from a public right-of-way. He noted this made the lot a
corner lot and if the roadway did not exist, no variances would be necessary.
Clark asked if a vacation of the right-of-way could be done by the City.
Brixius said he does not know what purpose or use it is to the City but the
• City engineer could answer that question. Klein asked who would pay for
repairs if the City has to fix main breaks. Brixius said the City would do some
restoration but we do not allow a structure on a utility easement.
Chair Maloney asked if there was anyone present from the public that wished
to speak in favor of the variance requests. Letters were received from
Commissioners Mork Bredeson and Sippel (who could not attend the meeting)
in favor of recommending the variance requests to the Council. Chris Snow,
2421 Black Lake Road, said he was in favor of the proposal and urged its
approval from the City. He said the lot has not been used and the house
would improve the aesthetics of the neighborhood.
Beth Aschinger, 2452 Black Lake Road, asked for clarification of the location
of the water main on the property. Brixius pointed out there are water and
sewer lines in that location and the water line is in the center of the 18 foot
easement.
Maloney asked if there was anyone present that would like to speak in
opposition to the variance requests. Aschinger asked how much space is
needed for the easement. Maloney said usually the width is based on the
depth of the utilities to allow adequate room to make repairs. Aschinger asked
how far into the easement the house could be placed. She was told it cannot
• go into the easement at all.
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• Maloney read two letters received that were opposed to the variance requests,
one was from L. Schussler, 2425 Black Lake Road, and from B. Crawford,
4317 Rose Hill Lane. Meyer pointed out a house at one time did fit with the
set back requirements. Graham Neve, 2413 Black Lake Road, asked how the
catch basin at that location would be affected. Clark said it would have to be
protected during construction. Maloney pointed out this may have to be
regarded with particular attention.
3. Close Public Hearing
Having no further questions, Chair Maloney closed the public hearing at 7:34
p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
a) NAC—3/l/06
Mason asked if the variances would be voted on one at a time. Klein stated
the lot is odd shaped and the structure could be rearranged to fit on it. She
said it is too big of a house for that lot, there is not a lot of green space on
either side and creativity should be used to decrease the number of variances.
Motion by Maloney to recommend to the Council to approve the variance
requests with the exception of the south side yard set back.
• In discussion she said most of the variance requests were because of the
public right-of-way. Clark verified the motion meant the variance for the 30
foot right-of-way set back was being allowed if all other requests were met.
Klein verified the height request was being approved with this motion. She
said it sounds like they could rearrange the structure to meet the other
requirements. Clark added except the right-of-way set back.
The motion died for lack of a second.
Mason asked if they would pursue possible vacation of the right-of-way and
was told no. Clark asked if the City would consider a vacation. Hughes said
this would have to be deferred to the City engineer. Brixius said it would
require a public hearing and the City would have to decide the right-of-way no
longer served the City. Mason said they could reduce the height, but there is
more to it besides the height.
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council
to approve the side yard set back abutting the right-of-way on the north
side only. Upon roll call Klein, Mason and Maloney voted aye. Motion
declared carried.
Clark verified a new plan would remove the height issue and other setback
• issues. Seifert said he would have to redesign the site plan to accommodate
the motion. Brixius stated this does not eliminate the fact the lot is smaller
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• than standard and the width is smaller than standard and while they meet the
impervious surface requirements and by approving that, you are stating this lot
is buildable because all of the other requirements are met. He said you have
to be on record with a recommendation on the lot area and impervious surface
area also.
Motion by Maloney to recommend to the Council to approve lot area, lot
width and impervious surface requirements. Motion failed due to lack of
a second.
Klein stated that no matter how the structure is redesigned the impervious
surface would not be met and they may have to use gravel for a driveway.
Brixius pointed out compacted gravel will not allow water to penetrate and it
would become compacted. He again pointed out the presence of the right-of-
way creates the hardship for the entire property and everything else would be
compliant is this did not exist. Mason verified the right-of-way on the north
is the mitigating factor.
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Klein to recommend to the Council
to approve lot area, lot width and impervious surface requirements.
Upon roll call Klein and Maloney voted aye and Mason voted no. Motion
declared carried.
• Hughes said he would like the City Attorney to comment on the motions to
make sure all of the issues have been covered. Beck said she has not had
time to review the issues and referred this to Brixius. He said the setback on
the south side and the height has not been covered.
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason recommend to the Council to
deny the height and south side yard variance requests. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
Seifert clarified the plan has to be redesigned to eliminate the height variance
and the south side set back variance.
c) Site Plan Review & Application for Preliminary Plat, K. Hovnanian (for Island
Drive)
Present for this public hearing: Mike Reger, K. Hovnanian; John Harriss & Matt
Anderson, Harriss Architect; Tom Goodrum &Kevin Teppen, Schoell &Madson;
Brian Manrick.
1. Open Public Hearing
a) Notice of Public Hearing
Maloney opened the public hearing at 7:49 p.m. and read the notice
published in the Laker Newspaper.
is 2. Discussion&Comments
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• Brixius requested the Planning Commission to continue the public hearing
because we do not have the predevelopment agreement signed by the
developer. He said we are asking the applicant to extend the review period
and the applicant verbally agreed to do this. Brixius said the issues are being
worked out this week.
He said K. Hovnanian is applying for preliminary plat approval and site plan
review. He showed the location of the existing buildings and stated the
application in hand is proposing removing the existing buildings and build
four other buildings (two are attached); all of the buildings will have
underground parking and surface parking for guests; sidewalks, ponds, and
pools; the property is zoned for R-3, high density residential.
Brixius said they are asking for the preliminary plat to split into four lots; they
all would be compliant including the lot widths,building heights and setbacks.
He said the issues with the plat are to secure an easement for the driveway (of
which has been secured); they need an additional two feet of county right-of-
way. Brixius stated there are 157 existing units and 147 condo units are
being proposed; the height of all the buildings is 3 stories and the City is not
going to grant any variances. He noted some areas of the buildings will look
larger because the height is measured from the finished grade to the top. It
was emphasized to the applicant to use soft muted earth tones and natural
• materials such as stone for the exterior.
Brixius stated there would be two underground parking stalls per unit. He
said there is an issue with the site design and proper traffic visibility on Island
Drive (which is a private street). He stated there should be 110 unobstructed
feet in both directions. Another concern was the grade going into the
individual driveways.
One parking requirement of the Mist Lofts was to 1/4 stall per unit for guest
parking. Brixius said this is addressed over the entire site for opportunities to
provide more and they are only two stalls short; trash enclosures are located
inside the building; the drive from county road 15 is 26 feet wide and narrows
to 20 feet and then vegetation is added for storm water run off, the entrance at
county road 15 is designed to be wider for right and left turn lanes; Hennepin
County requires an access permit and wants a 12 foot right of way versus a 10
foot right-of-way.
Brixius said the island has access lanes into underground parking and have
turning radiuses for emergency equipment; there are pull off locations for
large truck deliveries; the setback from the shoreline is 50 feet; they are
keeping a lot of green space in a natural state; there is going to be rain
gardens, retaining walls, with connections to all areas for pedestrians; they are
• going to continue to work with the Marina Center to provide access from the
project to the center.
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• Brixius further stated the impervious surface will increase from 43% to 44%;
the Stormwater Management Plan provides ponds for filtration and a sediment
trap and the run off will go thru the rain garden before released to the lake;
there will be native vegetation along the road and erosion control practiced
during construction. He said the island would have an established
sedimentation basin; water will be directed from the roof and parking lot to
the rain gardens before entering the lake. He said the MCWD waits for action
from the City before they will review the plans; there is going to be significant
change in the grade on the east side because there is a 13-foot grade separation
and a boulder retaining wall along with ornamental trees and shrubs. He
added there will be bridge between the two buildings on Shoreline Drive.
Brixius added boulder retaining walls are being used for a more natural
appearance; circulation includes access to docks, pools, lake, etc.; light
locations are along the parking lot and drives and some lighting is suggested
along the isthmus between the island and the drive to the upper buildings; a
detailed plan has been submitted for the landscaping elements, rain gardens,
shoreland impact areas, boulder walls, in conjunction with the island. Brixius
pointed out a big issue is we want the quantity and species identified so the
plan can be verified at the end on the project. He added the construction plan
is not complete; they added parking and storage areas and have to address the
• staging of the demolition.
Tom Goodrum (engineer)pointed out currently there are no issues or conflicts
and no variances applied for; Hennepin County is working with them
regarding the 12 foot right-of-way dedication; there would be an expansion of
a turn lane; they are open to placing light along the isthmus. Goodrum
pointed out the site currently has no storm water plan and they have adopted a
storm water treatment plan with retention ponds. He said they would be using
Construction Management Plan, Scenario #1 and that is demo and construct
the buildings on the island first and wait with the two northern buildings until
the island is constructed. Goodrum said the construction area will be fenced
in and they will have everything on site where they working. He said another
option they are looking at is to lease or access the area behind the shopping
center for construction storage.
Klein asked when they would know if they could use the Marina Center and
this is unknown. Seifert asked if traffic studies have been made to address
residents dealing with construction traffic and none have been done. Seifert
asked if they could be done. Goodrum said he can provide the information.
Brixius said the construction of Island Drive will be done during the 1"phase.
Mason asked what provision they have made if they are not able to use the
back lot at the Marina Center. Goodrum said they would definitely build
• building "A" first and `B" second. He indicated they would not have stock
piles at this site because there is not a lot of grading required.
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• Klein asked if the employees would park in the underground garage when
building "A" is finished and was told no. Maloney asked where they are
going to put employee parking during construction. Goodrum pointed out
there are about 60 stalls in the middle of buildings "A" & `B" and he added
both buildings on the island would be removed at the same time.
Linda Lampman, resident of Park Hill/Island, inquired about disturbing the
wildlife habitat. Goodrum said it would be left for wild life. She asked the
number of the boat slips on the site. Goodrum stated it would be the same
amount as now with no additional impact. Manrick said he is working with
the LMCD to see if another dock configuration would work better than the
current one. Mike Gorra, owner of Park Hill/Island Apartments said the two
buildings on the island, during the original construction, had no problem with
storing construction equipment between the buildings.
Klein verified they meet all the requirements for the fire inspection. Mason
asked who would be monitoring the wetlands during construction. Goodrum
said the MCWD reviews construction sites, City staff can check it, and the
honor system is used. Harriss said he makes regular visits to sites to deal
with issues. Goodrum reminded the group this is a high profile project in a
sensitive area. Brixius said all requirements and recommendations would be
• on a plan for approval and the burden of compliance is with the City to make
sure they are doing it right.
Neve asked the price range of the units. Reger said they have not determined
the market value yet and to determine this they have focus groups do phone
surveys, etc. to determine this. Mason asked why they changed the staging of
the construction. Reger said they are working with the seller and other issues
came into account i.e. displacing people; if they can keep available some
space for a longer period of time it would be helpful for some of the residents.
He added they will do everything they can in their power to do it right and
take the time needed. Mason asked if they are staggering the purchase of the
buildings. Reger said they are and this will give Gorra an opportunity to
continue renting as long as possible.
Mason asked if they would be utilizing the docks during construction and he
was told no. Maloney asked if they have submitted a grading plan and was
told they are working on it. Reger said they are working on five easements
and stated the negotiations are going well. Maloney verified the plan
submitted for the road includes the easement for the driveway. Seifert said the
easement is signed for the road. Goodrum pointed out the permanent
easement is for the two feet from the county road.
• Maloney said they have to know which site plan they are supposed to approve.
Brixius stated the City has asked the developer to extend the 120 day review
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• period in writing to 30 or 60 days so the issues such as construction phasing
can be worked out.
Linda Lampman stated the proposed development was having an impact on
lower income residents and displacing affordable housing. Mason said the
Council and Planning Commission have discussed this at workshops and they
do have an interest in that. Hughes pointed out the Met Council says the City
has to have a certain percentage of affordable housing. Weeks said we exceed
that percentage now. Klein recommended that information be made available
for the next meeting. Reger stated there would be a wide variety of units on
the property with various price ranges and they provide a high quality product,
it is a low impact development and it impacts the environment in a positive
way.
Hughes suggested Reger do a search on affordable housing in our previous
minutes because it would behoove him to catch up what has been discussed.
Mason asked what type of landscape will be between Shoreline Drive and the
buildings and this will be in the landscape plan. He asked when the
construction is going to start for the first phase. Reger said it depends on the
approval process. He said the development meets or exceeds all of the zoning
standards. He thought the time frame would be after October 15th or early
2007.
• Teppen (landscape architect) said they are going to increase the amount of the
canopy of trees along the driveway. They are providing a lot of vegetation
and softening it with rain gardens. He added they will continue with the
boulevard trees along Shoreline Drive.
Harriss stated he was requested to assemble samples of the exterior materials
for the buildings. He said they want stone, brick and metal for permanence
and low maintenance and a lot of glass to maximize the views. He pointed out
all brick is accented with another color; the metals have been toned down so
they are not so bright on the corners and on top; the small portions of insets
are hardy board and the window frames are dark bronze.
Maloney asked if there were any more questions or comments at this time.
Brixius said the summary of his recommendations are on pages 10 and 11 on
his report. He said the recommendation to the Council should be to continue
this public hearing until the Planning Commission meeting in April. He
added the presentation tonight waives the need for a total presentation again.
4. Recommendation to Council
a) NAC—3/1/06
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Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to continue the public hearing
to the next Planning Commission meeting April 12, 2006. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes—2/6/06
b) Workshop (Providence on Lake Mtka.)—2/8/06
c) Council Minutes—2/21/06
d) Channels 8 &20 Schedules March 2006
e) Building Report February
f) Sign Report February
g) Memo Re: CD's Requested(Mailed)—2/13/06
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Hughes reminded the Commissioners of the Moratorium Workshop on March 27th
and & complimented the chair on her conduct of the meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 p.m.
All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
IL LAM D. WEEKS-
ADMINISTRATOR/CLERK/TREASURER.
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AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 12, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
Oath of Office—Bill Tyler
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—March 8, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application, 4282 Shoreline Drive (Tonka Ventures Bldg), IT BONA
b) Sign Permit Application, 4142 Shoreline Drive Ste D (Tonka Ventures Bldg),
• Pagel USA
c) Variance Application—Steve Bedell, 4600 West Arm Road
1. Open Public Hearing
a) Public Hearing Notice
2. Discussion& Comments
a) NAC—3/5/06
b) Communication—G. Shavlik, 4608 West Arm Road
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
d) Continued Public Hearing—Providence on Lake Minnetonka
1. Discussion& Comments
a) NAC—4/3/06
b) Landscape Plan(L1, L2, L3)
c) Construction Staging Plan
d) Preliminary Grading Plan
2. Close Public Hearing
3. Recommendation to Council
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Joint Meeting Minutes— 1/30/06
b) Council Minutes—3/6/06
c) Council Minutes—3/14/06
d) Council Minutes—3/20/06
• e) Closed Executive Session—3/20/06
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• g) Letter to B. Aschinger—3/2/06
h) April Calendar
i) Building& Sign Report—March
j) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
k) Council, Planning Commission& Staff Updated List
1) Letter from Dan Pinault, 4360 Channel Road Re: Wilkes Park—4/6/06
7. MISCELLANEOUS
S. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 12,2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the pledge of allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mork Bredeson, Klein, Mason, Maloney, Tyler and Ex-Officio Hughes were present.
Anderson and Sippel were excused. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl, Office Assistant
Lewin; Alan Brixius, Planner;Nancy Beck, Attorney.
Oath of Office—Bill Tyler
Deputy Clerk Corl administered the oath of office to Tyler.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Maloney and seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—March 8, 2006
Mork Bredeson requested the word"absent"be changed to "excused"for herself and Sippel.
Mason said Mayor Rockvam and Council Person Reinhardt should be added to those
present.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to approve the Planning Commission minutes
for the meeting March 8, 2006 with the corrections. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application, 4282 Shoreline Drive (Tonka Ventures Bldg), IT BONA
Berndt Ruttkowski was present for both sign permit applications. Klein verified the
proposed signs were in conformance with the ordinance. She commented favorably on
the choice of colors for the signs. Mork Bredeson pointed out to the applicant the City
has recommended colors for signs on Shoreline Drive and they are the chosen colors of
this sign.
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• Motion by Mork Bredeson and seconded by Mason to approve the sign permit
application for IT BONA, 4282 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
b) Sign Permit Application, 4142 Shoreline Drive Ste D (Tonka Ventures Bldg), Pagel USA
Maloney verified the sign was similar to the current signs on the Tonka Ventures
Building.
Motion by Mork Bredeson and seconded by Klein to approve the sign permit
application for Pagel USA, 4142 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
c) Variance Application—Steve Bedell, 4600 West Arm Road
1) Open Public Hearing
a) Public Hearing Notice
Chair Maloney read the notice published in the Laker Newspaper and opened the
public hearing at 7:06 p.m.
2) Discussion& Comments
a) NAC—3/5/06
b) Communication—G. Shavlik, 4608 West Arm Road
Steve Bedell was present for the public hearing. He distributed a picture of the house
• he is proposing to build on West Arm Road. He pointed out that particular house fits
on a 50 foot wide lot in Mound. Bedell said he revised his revised plan to maintain a
10 foot side yard setback on the west side to satisfy that neighbor; he is asking for a 5
foot setback variance on the east side; he said that neighbor does not object to this.
Bedell said he is willing to work with the City to make his building proposal work.
He pointed out the proposed house would be more conforming than the previous
house he demolished.
Maloney asked if Bedell received the letter from NAC and was told he did. He said
he is willing to compromise and redraft new plans for a narrower house. Klein asked
the height of the house. Bedell said it was within the ordinance requirements. Mason
asked if the first level was 50% into the ground. Bedell said the picture is of a two
story house and if height becomes an issue he will address it. Mason asked how
much grade would be changed and was told none.
Bedell said there were concerns with blocking the neighbor's views; he said his
proposed structure would not be blocking views. Mason pointed out the view would
be blocked on the west side. He asked how the soil would be retained. Bedell said
the main problem is from the street and up to the neighbor's retailing wall. Mason
asked the future status of the current retaining wall. Bedell said it would come down
and be replaced with lime stone blocks.
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asked the measurement of the overhang on the east. Bedell said it would be
about 1 %2 feet. Maloney pointed out that is a standard width. Mason stated there is a
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• safety issue with fire equipment on that side of the house. Bedell said he may have to
address the retaining wall regarding safety. Mason asked the location of the retaining
wall on the survey and was told it is close to the property line.
Maloney asked if the driveway worked the same way as the one in the picture and
Bedell said the proposed house would be reversed. Klein asked if they should reserve
a recommendation at this time. Bedell said he would have to do new sketches.
Maloney said it would be difficult to look at a side yard request without accurate
hardcover calculations. Bedell noted he thought he was purchasing a 55 foot wide lot
and he would recalculate the hardcover.
Mork Bredeson pointed out it would be better to get away from the 5 foot variance
request because there is an issue with safety and the fire department. She suggested
having the fire department give an opinion on this request. She also noted there is no
hardship for that property. Bedell confirmed if he stayed within the ordinance he
would just need a building permit.
Maloney read the comments from Hoelting's letter, neighbors on the east side of the
property, who were in favor of the proposal and Shavlik's letter, neighbor on the west
side, opposing the proposal. She asked if anyone from the public would like to make
a comment. Bob Rich, 4626 West Arm Road, was in favor of the proposal. Mason
pointed out the 50 foot lot is not a hardship. Klein said if there is not hardship, the
• Planning Commission could not recommend approval of the variance request. She
said they are bound by the requirements of the ordinance.
Bedell said he could have added onto the existing house instead of tearing it down.
Mason told him he should have come to the City before tearing down the house.
Klein stated recommending approval would be setting a precedent and it has to be
justifiable. Bedell pointed out each case should be treated individually. Brixius
suggested the Planning Commission continue the public hearing so it would not have
to be published again and he offered to assist Bedell with his variance request.
3. Close Public Hearing
Motion by Mason and seconded by Mork Bredeson to continue the public
hearing to the next Planning Commission meeting. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
4. Recommendation to Council
Hughes pointed out that before any final approval from the Council, Bedell's
drawings have to be accurate.
d) Continued Public Hearing—Providence on Lake Minnetonka
1. Discussion& Comments
• a) NAC —4/6/06
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• b) Landscape Plan(L1, L2, L3)
c) Construction Staging Plan
d) Preliminary Grading Plan
Present: Mike Reger, K. Hovnanian; John Harriss, architect; Kevin Teppen and Matt
Anderson, landscaping; Tom Goodrum, engineer; Paul Neuman, Weis (builder); Mike
Gorra, apartment owner.
The above items were referred to in the discussion. Brixius pointed out at the previous
Planning Commission meeting a public hearing was opened for Providence on Lake
Minnetonka for the site plan and preliminary plat review. He stated the developer is
proposing to demolish four apartment buildings containing 157 units and replace them
with 147 condo units in four buildings. He said the formal presentation was given at the
previous meeting. Brixius added at that time the recommendation was to continue the
public hearing pending the developer signing the predevelopment agreement, submitting
a landscape plan, grading plan and construction staging plan. He pointed out those issues
have been addressed and plans have been submitted.
Brixius reviewed the high points of the project. He said the preliminary plat shows four
individual lots because the ordinance prevents more than one principal building on a lot;
access to all lots have to be on a City approved street; their access is a private street,
Island Drive; there was concern with fire safety, turning radiuses; a primary concern was
the need for an easement from another property owner for the drive into the property.
• Brixius said the applicant has secured that easement and it was signed by both property
owners; the grading plan showed grading beyond the property; this can be done but a
temporary construction easement is needed.
Brixius said the concept plan has been changed a couple of times; their concerns were
traffic patterns; each unit will have two underground parking stalls; the design of the
traffic pattern accommodates moving vans, large trucks, emergency vehicles; there is a
20 foot roadway to the island; the units meet all the required setbacks; the development
has achieved a stormwater treatment plan; He pointed out the retaining wall on the east
side will have a 13 foot drop; they did not want a cave affect so those buildings were
reduced somewhat; guest parking has been provided;
Brixius said another major concern in the original process was the building height; they
have satisfied the height requirements; the average elevation is just over 35 feet and the
maximum allowed is 40 feet. He noted the buildings would be visible from the lake; the
developer is working on the landscape plan to break up the look of just buildings.
Brixius pointed out the displayed color rendition of exterior materials consisting of brick,
stone, lap siding; each building will have a significant amount of glass for views of the
lake. He said a dramatic element is significant site grading necessary to provide
stormwater management and treatment elements; they have provided treatment areas and
rain gardens and the end result will be better over all than the existing treatment. He
• pointed out they are reducing parking surfaces for ponding and green space; open space
will include trails, ponds, landscaped yards along entire island; the treatment along the
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• top of the wall will be conifer plantings and tiered with another row of hardwoods and
shrubs; the lower wall will be a boulder wall leading into the ponding area. There will be
pedestrian access around and between the buildings and to the island and the pools;
another major issue is the lighting; a photo metric plan has been submitted.
Tyler asked what the east side of the wall looked like. Brixius said it would be at grade
and the 13 foot drop is inside the complex. Maloney verified there would be required
fencing on the wall. Brixius pointed out there was concern where the access points to the
garage come out into the driveway areas and those concerns have been satisfied; he noted
the City has received a revised grading plan showing the construction of the driveway can
occur entirely on the property; he said his review of the original grading plan offers a
better design and both are acceptable and he recommends approving both plans.
Brixius pointed out a revised landscape plan has been submitted that includes the
individual species, quantity and sizes. He said most trees are ornamental and would be
25 to 30 feet in height to preserve views to the lake. Mork Bredeson stated the road has
to be lit and a post light would be less obtrusive. Brixius said 15 foot lights would be
seen from the lake and the edge of the road has to be defined; bollard lights were
suggested; no landscaping would be planted to shield the lights from the lake.
Brixius stated there was concern with the original construction staging plan because it
would involve a lot of employees, cars, equipment, etc. He said they will have fencing
• around the entire construction site; the new plan provides for about 70 employees plus
trucks and deliveries. He stated other elements of concern are operational i.e. street
cleaning; the 2nd phase is more complicated because it is a tighter area. He added the
underground parking for residents could be used for employees temporarily. He said the
plan speaks to traffic control, litter, etc. and noted there will be some disruptions.
Tyler asked if the island buildings would be completed before the other units are started.
Reger said they expect to have the island buildings completed and sold no later than 24
months based on how the project is perceived by the market; they will then proceed to do
the other buildings; Mason asked the proposed start time and was told this fall. Mork
Bredeson asked if 24 months is the projected shortest or longest time and verified there
would be two years between the phase 1 and 2. Mason asked if the start time of phase 2
would be pending complete sales of the island units. Reger said the development would
be according to the plan not the market and delivering the product to the consumer
according to a schedule.
Mason asked if the development was still a concept. Brixius stated it was a plan, they
have submitted a site plan and preliminary plat for the Planning Commission to take
action on at this meeting. It will be reviewed by the Council and actual building drawings
are submitted with the building permit application. Klein asked if the developer will
own all four building at once and if it was possible the second phase would not occur.
Brixius said it has been discussed how much would occur and what has to be completed
• if the entire development did not occur. He stated the following must be completed: all
of Island Drive; grading on the slope; the proposed work at county road 15. Brixius said
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�. the City has to state what we want done in the first phase development, dictate how each
section is going to be developed and state what has to be done in its entirety regarding
grading, the island, etc.
Klein expressed concern there have been a lot of revisions and they get new
documentation at every meeting. She was told they are trying to be responsive to
changes requested by the City dictated to them. Brixius pointed out the site plan and
preliminary plat has not changed and the developer has addressed our concerns in the
general operation during the construction.
Maloney verified the Planning Commission is being asked to approve the elements that
have remained the same. Hughes said it was raised at the last meeting by the residents if
they could still get to the lake and use their boats. He asked if the docks are going to be
available during construction and what contingency plan is there for people that have
docks. Tyler asked if the boat slips there now are owned by the apartments and the users
are apartment dwellers. He was told the docks belong to the apartments and most of
them are used by residents of the units. Reger said at the time of closing on the property,
the boat slips on the island will not be available, but some will be available at the hill site
and there will be access to them. Hughes said his concern is there is not a plan in place
for the boat slips. Gorra said there is a plan in place and it has been worked out with the
developers; most slips are used by the people that live in the complex.
. Tyler asked if they are changing the number of docks available. Reger said they are
working with the LMCD. Tyler asked if the hill project would also take two years and at
what point is the hill project started. Reger stated the hill project would start when they
are contractually required to obtain the hill property. He pointed out this is hard to
determine exactly as construction is weather driven and the best case scenario is 4 years
for the entire project.
Mason asked when the landscaping and wall on the hill would be constructed. Brixius
said there is no reason to grade there prior to that construction; the only thing going to be
done on the hill is the road. Norma Babatz, resident, said she is concerned with the
traffic. Reger said they are reducing the number of units on the entire site thus reducing
the traffic. Maloney pointed out it is up to the county to assess the traffic because that is
a country road. Babatz asked if the City Council ever considered traffic concerns and
was told traffic studies were done.
Klein verified Hennepin County does not have issues with the development. Goodrum
said they worked with the county and were asked to provide a wider entrance for a better
flow of traffic. He said vehicles entering are entering right only and exiting right only
during peak times (right in and right out); the rest of the day left and right turns would be
allowed. He said the only real traffic problem should occur with the demolition of the
first buildings; there would be a low impact of traffic once the first few weeks are done
removing debris.
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10 Mason asked if the only grading is going to be done on the road. Goodrum said there
would be minimal grading on the island; the road coming in will be changed but they
have to maintain the existing access; it is going to be widened up to 26 feet with utility
improvements. Mason asked what is going to be done with the road bed to control the
dust. Goodrum said they have to get the utilities in and the road would be watered down
during that time.
Maloney referred to the landscape plan and stated there are a lot of smaller ornamental
trees. Goodrum said there would be a tiering affect with the trees from the lake; they do
not want them growing above the roof tops but blend in with the buildings; it is important
to protect the views of the lake. Maloney said it would be nice to see a few larger trees
for a visual affect in areas that are not going to obstruct the view. Teppen said there are
going to be large canopy trees along Shoreline Drive and accent trees are along the
lakeshore. He said along the island are all canopy trees for buffering and interest
specifically on the park hill side; the building is back from the lake and allows the
opportunity to put in large canopy trees and also along the building face. Teppen said
they would like to keep a naturalistic look and make the landscaping fit with the character
of the development.
Klein asked what kind of trees are proposed along Island Drive and was told they are
going to be birches which grow to 50 to 60 feet tall. Mason asked the height difference
from existing to new and was told they would grow 12 to 15 feet taller.
• A Mound resident commented she was pleased they are in support of keeping the
development more residential versus a commercial feel to it; sensitive to not over lighting
it; she liked the idea of bollard lighting. Mork Bredeson asked where there would be pole
lights and where there would be bollard lights. Goodrum said pole lights would be on the
hill and bollard lights would be along the peninsula area. Mork Bredeson asked how
many light poles are proposed. Goodrum referred her to the light plan in the packet. It
was noted the light poles will be identical to the ones being used at the Mist Lofts.
Hughes asked if the poles would hang over the roadway or inside the sidewalks.
Goodrum said they would make sure trucks could not hit the lights and they will place
them where the City wants them. Brixius said the light poles would be located behind the
sidewalk and the photometric plan is compliant with our requirements. He added the
lighting between the island and the county road was a concern. He asked the Planning
Commission to make lighting required from the island to County Road 15 as a condition
in their approval.
Mason asked if the trees along the roadway to the island would keep the light from
illuminating the lake. Brixius said the bollard lighting would be directional. Harriss
stated bollard lighting is typically used for walkways. Maloney asked if we should
require a minimum of pole lighting. Harriss said we have to study it to obtain a balance.
Maloney asked if there would be another opportunity to discuss lighting. Brixius said the
Council and staff could discuss that. Mason asked if they have an easement for staging at
the Marina Center. Goodrum said everything can be handled on site. Mason asked if that
• included a sales trailer. Reger said that can be worked out at a later date.
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• Mason noted they changed the name of the project to Island Harbor. He pointed out we
would like to be informed of any changes. Hughes asked if trucks are making right turns
and residents making left turns, will they have 3 lanes to accommodate this. Goodrum
said that would be addressed if there is a need for it. Tyler asked the size and price of the
units. Reger said they will range in size from 1,000 to 3,000 square feet and will have a
broad spectrum of pricing. Mason briefly mentioned affordable housing. Reger pointed
out the market would determine the price.
Mason noted the representation of Schoell and Madson on behalf of the City and the
developer. Goodrum said it was the engineer's position to protect the City's interest. He
pointed out the engineers are two different people with two different functions. Maloney
asked the Commissions part in this. Hughes deferred that to attorney Beck. He said we
made sure no approvals were being made by the same consultants for the development
and the City. Beck said this issue was raised by the Council and she drafted a conflict of
interest policy; that policy was not in affect when this project started; Schoell and
Madson received approval to represent K. Hovnanian. Klein asked if the conflict of
interest policy states this situation could not happen. Beck said the City Council has to
decide unanimously to allow the situation.
2. Close Public Hearing
Chair Maloney closed the public hearing at 8:54 p.m.
. 3. Recommendation to Council
Brixius pointed out the Planning Commission is being asked for their approval on the
preliminary plat and site and building plan review. He would like to add approval of both
grading plans, the original and revised; a resolution of lighting along the narrow portion
of the road; approval of the construction staging plan; and an amendment that would
accommodate a left turn allowed for residents during construction. Goodrum asked for
clarification with allowing the left turn i.e. thru a flag man. Brixius said he would give
options.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Klein to recommend to the Council to
approve the application from K. Hovnanian Homes for a preliminary plat and site
and building plan review for property located at 2380, 2450, 2470 Island Drive and
4601 Shoreline Drive consisting of the following plans:
Preliminary Plat Dated 12/08/05,Revised 02/03/06
Architectural Drawings Dated 02/03/06
Engineering Drawing Dated 12/28/05, Revised 01/20/06
Subject to the conditions and modifications outlined in:
Mound Fire Department Letter Dated 2/27/06
Hennepin County Highway Department Letter Dated 2/21/06
• City Engineer John Karwacki Letter Dated 1/9/06
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• City Engineer Ken Adolf Letter Dated 2/24/06
NAC Planning Report Dated 2/27/06
And the following:
1. The City approves both the original grading plan for Island Drive and the
revised grading plan for Island Drive with a retaining wall.
2. Subject to City Council approval of lighting along Island Drive between
Island and Hill portion of the site.
3. Approval of the revised Landscape Plan dated 3/23/2006.
4. Approval of the construction staging plan submitted 4/12/06 with the
provision that the applicant provide for a resident left hand turn onto
County Road 15 during construction. If traffic congestion at the entrance
becomes an issue, the applicant shall provide a flag person to direct traffic.
Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Klein, Mason, Maloney and Tyler said aye. Motion
declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
. The following communications were noted:
a) Joint Meeting Minutes— 1/30/06
b) Council Minutes—3/6/06
c) Council Minutes—3/14/06
d) Council Minutes—3/20/06
e) Closed Executive Session—3/20/06
f) Special Council Minutes—3/27/06
g) Letter to B. Aschinger—3/2/06
h) April Calendar
i) Building & Sign Report—March
j) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
k) Council,Planning Commission& Staff Updated List
1) Letter from Dan Pinault,4360 Channel Rd Re: Wilkes Park—4/6/06
7. MISCLLANEOUS —None
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Mork Bredeson and seconded by Klein to adjourn the Planning
Commission meeting at 9:15 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
• DEPUTY CLERK
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 10,2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—April 12, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application 06-08 —Minnetonka Realty, 4154 Shoreline Drive
b) Sign Permit Application 06-07 - Tyconn, LLP, 4032 Shoreline Drive
6. COMMUNICATIONS
• a) Letter from Steve Bedell Re: Tabling Variance Request— 5/4/06
b) Joint Meeting—3/27/06
c) Special Council Meeting—4/3/06
d) Council Minutes—4/3/06
e) Special Meeting—4/6/06
f) Council Minutes—4/17/06
g) Board of Review Minutes—4/24/06
h) Ordinance Amendment Re: Musical Concerts (Please add to your ordinance
book)
i) Ordinance Addition Re: Conflict of Interest Policy (Please add to your ordinance
book)
j) LMCC Newsletter Winter 2006
k) May Calendar
1) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
m)Upper Tonka Little League Agreement 2006
n) Moratorium & Ordinances—5/5/06
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
• SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 10, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Klein,Mason, Maloney, Tyler, Ex-Officio Hughes and Council Person Reinhardt
were present. Mork Bredeson, Anderson and Sippel were excused. Staff present:
Administrator Friesen, Deputy Clerk Corl; Office Assistant Lewin.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
• 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—April 12, 2006
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission meeting April 12,2006. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application 06-08 —Minnetonka Realty, 4154 Shoreline Drive
Hughes verified each light bar is an inch and a quarter. Klein asked about the difference
in the two drawings contained in the packet. She was told the 8' light bar was included in
error. Klein verified the sign meets all the requirements. Maloney asks for a motion.
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Mason to approve the sign permit application
for 4154 Shoreline Drive, Minnetonka Realty, for a 16 foot light bar under the name
on the east and south face. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Sign Permit Application 06-07 -Tyconn, LLP, 4032 Shoreline Drive
Discussion: Maloney wondered what type of material the sign will be made of. Hughes
raised concerns about the parking diagram submitted with the application regarding
issues about the number of parking spots.
• Friesen met with the applicant today and the applicant says he'll remove some pylons;
there's probably four parking spots on the back of the lot, and five on the west side, next
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to the building, and another seven on the east side making a total of 16 on the lower
• level. She said he probably could get five more stalls on the lot west of the building
when the Mist construction is complete.
Friesen stated on the upper level, it's difficult to tell because the applicant didn't have a
measurement. There are issues with power poles, a fire hydrant and trash receptacles but
they could maybe have 10 spots; there is the potential to have a total of 31 parking spots.
Friesen says the current diagram, the way it's drawn, is probably not acceptable. It was
requested the applicant supply more adequate drawings. Friesen says a conditional
approval could be granted, therefore he wouldn't have to wait a month but, if it's tabled,
he would lose a month.
Tyler wants to know what the connection with a sign permit application has to do with
parking. Friesen talks about the parking being part of the zoning ordinance. Friesen
states the applicant could argue they are two separate ordinances,however, the City could
argue it is still a health and safety issue and we want some control. She added the City
wants to make sure there is conformity.
Klein asked if the applicant knows the diagram is inadequate. Klein also wondered if the
applicant is receptive to the City's concerns. Maloney asked if parking will be a concern
with regard to the applicant's business. Friesen said there isn't anticipation of parking
issues with the present business occupying the building; the 30-31 parking spaces should
• be more than adequate for the current business.
Maloney stated she feels the sign application is not complete. Klein said the colors are
vague on the application. Hughes wondered if the color scheme will be like the sign
posted in the window.
Maloney, Klein and Mason feel the application and diagram should be more complete;
it's inadequate at this time. Mason said it would be desirable to receive clean, clear
copies of what is being proposed. Klein suggested the applicant also attend the meeting.
Maloney thinks so many things are coming to the Planning Commission that are
incomplete and she suggests tabling this until the next meeting.
Tyler asked about the mini-storage part of the business. Friesen described it as being in
the basement of the former bait shop. Friesen said the mini-storage has plywood walls
and is approximately 8x10 or 12x12 per storage unit. It reminded her of storage lockers
allotted to apartments dwellers.
Klein requested more information, doesn't want to delay this but feels there isn't enough
information. Mason asked about the temporary sign. Hughes noted the applicant has a
temporary sign permit for the one on the sidewalk.
Tyler stated he assumes there are ordinances regarding what's stored in those storage
units. Hughes said he questioned the fact a building permit was not needed for adding
the mini storage. Hughes thinks it's a little odd.
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Tyler wanted to know what keeps someone from storing ten gallons of gasoline there.
• Hughes thinks it's probably covered in the agreement with the owner. Klein said there
might be state regulations or insurance regulations controlling what is allowed to be
stored. Whether it's spelled out or not is another thing. Tyler wondered if there is any
control over these storage issues. Friesen thinks probably not. She added City staff relies
upon the inspector's advice and if the inspector says a building permit is not necessary
(triggering an inspection), the City needs to rely upon the expert's advice.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler to table the decision regarding the sign
permit application for Tyconn,LLP,4032 Shoreline Drive to the next Planning
Commission meeting. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted
a) Letter from Steve Bedell Re: Tabling Variance Request—5/4/06
b) Joint Meeting—3/27/06
c) Special Council Meeting—4/3/06—no discussion
d) Council Minutes—4/3/06—no discussion
e) Special Meeting—4/6/06—no discussion
f) Council Minutes—4/17/06—no discussion
g) Board of Review Minutes—4/24/06—no discussion
h) Ordinance Amendment Re: Musical Concerts (Please add to your ordinance book)
When given copies of ordinance changes, Corl said to add these to their ordinance book.
• Tyler wondered when law enforcement would be notified about traffic or noise
infractions regarding the muscical concerts. Corl said they respond to complaints. Tyler
states so it's reactive rather than proactive.
Reinhardt gave a background as to how this evolved and the relationship to the Boogie
Wonderland concert at Fletchers last summer. Hughes said that event brought to light
fire code violations and other issues that have since been rectified.
i) Ordinance Addition Re: Conflict of Interest Policy(Please add to your ordinance book)
j) LMCC Newsletter Winter 2006
k) May 2006 Calendar
Maloney says they all received the Moratorium date change.
1) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
m)Upper Tonka Little League Agreement 2006
Reinhardt said there will be T-ball games at Thor Thompson park. Reinhardt suggested
keeping eyes open for parking problems in the area because parking is limited.
Historically there were only practices held at the park. Recently there have been games
scheduled and there were problems with littering, etc. Therefore the decision was made
to ask for annual agreements thereby monitoring the activities.
Mason asked if the sodding was finished and was told yes. He wondered about the
• dugout that is always wet in the area. There is a house being torn down that Mason
knows about and wondered if the City is interested in acquiring the picnic table for the
park. This was noted.
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n) Moratorium & Ordinances—5/5/06 Corl said there will be a public hearing 6/14 at the
Planning Commission meeting for everything that is ready to go so far regarding the
moratorium.
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Mason noted regarding the city beautification plan, in front of the Yacht Club there are
some flowering crabs that might need replacement. Maloney also said between the Dock
and Lift and the Drive-In on Shoreline a tree needs to be replaced as well. Mason said on
Edgewater's east side there is a lot of erosion going on where there aren't landscape
timbers. Mason said something could be done to contain the soil better. Maloney noted
O'Flannagan's property has a lot of run-off and she wondered if anything is going to be
done about the erosion. Maloney suggested a fiber blanket be used.
Klein said the rocks placed in the alley behind Mapleton made a huge difference and she
would like to compliment Goman for that work.
Maloney asked about West Arm lift station. Corl said Adolf will have an update at the
Council meeting on May 15`h. Hughes said there's been communications between
Bollander and the City to complete the project and the completion date is supposed to be
June 1"
Mason wondered if the carwash got red tagged. Friesen said the Watershed was going to
red tag the project but Pfleghaar stated his engineer is the one that dropped the ball.
Pfleghaar is working to get it straightened out. The City didn't red tag the project
because the Watershed District decided to be more lenient. The Watershed is going to
allow Pfleghaar to continue building the block wall. Pfleghaar is supposed to be coming
in at the end of this week with better drawings. If Pfleghaar doesn't get the drawings in
by Friday the Council will take a strong position on red tagging this project.
Maloney expressed her concern about so many incomplete permits and applications. She
stated if applications are going to be coming to the Planning Commission then things
shouldn't be incomplete. Maloney thinks we are very lenient anyway and things like this
wouldn't pass in other cities.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to adjourn the Planning Commission
meeting at 7:41 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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'Wendy Lewin
Office Assistant
Planning Commission— 5/10/06
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
• SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES OF SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE
SPRING PARK CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD MAY 25, 2006, 7:00 P.M. AT CITY HALL
City Council Members in Attendance: Mayor Jerome Rockvam, Gary Hughes, Sarah
Reinhardt, Joanna Widmer, Bruce Williamson
Planning Commission Members in Attendance: Jean Mork Bredeson (arrived at 7:55),
Evalina Klein, Mike Mason, Bill Tyler
Planning Commission Members Absent: Bill Anderson, Sera Maloney, Doug Sippel
Staff in Attendance: Sarah Friesen, City Administrator/Clerk/Treasurer
D.J. Goman, City Utility Superintendent
Alan Brixius, Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc.
Dan Petrik,Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc.
Ken Adolf, Schoell &Madson
Tom Seifert, Head, Seifert &Vander Weide
Nancy Beck, Head, Seifert &Vander Weide
• Summary
On May 25, 2006 at 7:00 p.m., the Spring Park City Council and Planning Commission
held a special joint meeting at City Hall with the City Planners, City Attorneys, and City
Engineer. The meeting was conducted in a workshop format with Al Brixius leading.
The purpose was to review and discuss the following proposed amendments to the zoning
code; construction staging, site plan review, trash enclosures, parking requirements,
escrow and fees, and lighting.
Introduction
Copies of the revised ordinances were previously distributed. Al Brixius stated that the
purpose of the meeting was to make sure everyone was comfortable with the language
and that now was the time to edit, to change and to review. Next he reviewed the
timetable. The public hearing to consider the adoption of the proposed amendments is
scheduled on June 14 during the regular monthly meeting of the Planning Commission.
Next, the amendments will be placed on the council agenda to consider and approve.
Reinhart suggested a press release be written and that the proposed ordinances be placed
on the website.
Construction Staging
Suggestions made included; add Labor Day (Sect. 3, Subd. N. 4. e.), add a reference to
the approval process in Section 5 (Sect. 3, Subd. N. 5.).
•
5c. (escrow)was discussed. The language needs to be worked out and the percentage
• needs to be determined.
5e. (developer meetings with council)was discussed. It was requested to change the
language.
Site Plan Review Ordinance
Al Brixius stated that site plan approval and building permit approval are separate and
different. After approval the planner will take this ordinance and develop a checklist for
the city.
Suggestions made included; strike out two-family residential (Sec. 5 (c) (1)), change 15
to 10 percent (Sec. 5 (c) (2)), add notify adjacent property owners within 350 feet, correct
numbering error(Sec. 5 (f) (2)), delete the words "major" and "as defined by the zoning
administrator" (Sec. 5 (h)).
Surveys were discussed. Al Brixius stated they should be mandatory. It was questioned
what is a recent survey. Not over five years old will be added.
Trash Enclosures
Al Brixius stated that single and two family homes were exempt from the requirements.
Suggestions made included; strike out the word fence (2d.), increase the wall height or
• change the wording to two feet above height of receptacle (2d.).
Parking Requirements
Al Brixius stated that if the requirement was increased you would have impervious
surface issues. The language will remain as is.
Escrow/Fees
Al Brixius stated that development will pay for development as a pass thru. Two
different levels for escrow are needed(single family and the larger projects). He wants to
look at the fees collected the last few years and then he will bring back further
suggestions and revisions. He also pointed out that some cities bill for one application,
one variance and one escrow fee no matter how many variances are needed. The escrow
fee is to cover billable contracted time, not staff time.
Mayor Rockvam stated he opposed having a Wetland Mitigation Permit; that mitigating
wetlands had no value to Spring Park. Al Brixius responded that it should be put in the
City Code that we do not mitigate wetlands.
Lighting
Dan Petrick collaborated with a lighting contractor to develop this ordinance. It was
requested the Administrator contact the lighting consultant to make a presentation before
the public hearing is scheduled. Also, a copy of the Lightening Report will be obtained.
•
Table C-8-1 was reviewed. Neighborhood Shopping Center is to be deleted from the
Low Use Areas.
Announcements and Adjournment
A public hearing to consider the amendments to the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance is
scheduled on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 at 7:00 p.m. during the regularly scheduled
Planning Commission meeting.
The workshop adjourned at approximately 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sarah Friesen
• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 14,2006
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —May 10, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Public Hearing Re: Amendments for Zoning Ordinance
1. Open Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
• a) NAC—6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.11 —Construction Staging
b) NAC —6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.12—Lighting
c) NAC —6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.13 —Parking for Townhomes &Multiple Family
Dwellings
d) NAC—5/3/06
1. Ordinance 62.14—Plan Review
e) NAC—5/3/06
1. Ordinance 62.15 —Trash Enclosures
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
b) Sign Permit Application, Tyconn, LLP,4032 Shoreline Drive (Ted Storlie)
c) Variance Request, 4600 West Arm Road
1. Continue Public Hearing
2. Close Public Hearing
3. Recommendation to Council
d) Sign Permit Application, Innovative Marketing, 4284 Shoreline Drive
1) Staff Memo
6. COMMUNICATIONS
• a) July Calendar
b) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
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• c) Joint Meeting Minutes—4/27/06
d) Council Meeting—5/1/06
e) Council Meeting—5/15/06
fl Council Workshop—5/25/06
g) Joint Meeting—5/25/06
h) Closed Council Meeting—6/1/06
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
• MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 14,2006
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:04 followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Klein,Mason, Maloney, Tyler, Ex-Officio Hughes present. Mork-Bredeson was absent and
Anderson and Sippel were excused. Staff present, Administrator Friesen; Office Assistant Lewin; Al
Brixius, Planner, and Tom Seifert, Attorney.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion made by Mason to add on as part of the agenda number 5e a sign request for Amtech
Lighting with Tyler seconding. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —May 10, 2006
• Maloney noted the heading of last month's May 10, 2006 Minutes was incorrectly labeled"Agenda."
Maloney was told this error had been corrected.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler to approve the Planning Commission Minutes for
May 10, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Public Hearing Re: Amendments for Zoning Ordinance
1. Open Public Hearing
The Public Hearing was opened at 7:07.
2. Discussion and Comments
a) NAC—6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.11 —Construction Staging
Maloney read the proposed construction staging and construction-related nuisance ordinance
revision.
Brixius asks how much presentation the commissioners would like. It was asked that Brixius
condense it.
Brixius stated it is the intent to define the purpose as well as growing concerns with the public
welfare adjoining construction zones, exhaust,noise, loading, etc. Brixius said it is their intent to
require with site and plan reviews a construction staging plan submission. He stated it would be
• handled as an administrative review. Brixius continued to say requirements to be submitted will
be plans for employee parking, signage, identifying construction trailers, efforts to mitigate
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exhaust, fuel smells, dust and the prohibition of idling vehicles. Residential adjoining properties
will be given utmost importance. Also, debris clean up, identifying trash receptacles and daily
• inspections will be required for litter and clean up.
Brixius stated accesses are limited so staging of goods,parking and receiving are addressed. He
said concerns for noise and street conditions are addressed and development contracts might be
required. These development contracts would identify the plan and require securities to insure the
plan is implemented.
Regarding enforcement Brixius stated corrective measures will be taken in a timely fashion
otherwise a stop-work order will be administered. Failure to comply will be consistent with other
zoning regulations.
Maloney asked if there has been opposition from the public. Brixius said because of the Mist
Lofts and the Lakeview Lofts, they are going to require Providence to do this.
Klein said she likes that it protects surrounding property owners and it allows the City
enforcement options if there are problems.
Mason asked about hours of operation on Saturday. From his personal experience he feels a more
8 a.m.-5 p.m. timeline would be appropriate. He stated most people are off on weekends and they
want to enjoy peace and quiet. Brixius said this is still a draft and they welcome
recommendations.
Klein said she doesn't have a problem with it. Tyler wondered if 8 a.m. is too early on the
• weekend. However, Klein thinks 8 a.m. is acceptable but not 6:30 a.m.
Brixius said these weekend hours will be an opportunity for catch-up work and may not
necessarily be an every weekend thing.
Hughes asked about submission requirements on page 1, number three, regarding Administrative
Plan Review of this ordinance. Brixius said plan review is through the Planning Commission and
the Council.
Seifert wanted to point out that this doesn't govern single family homes. He said some people
doing work at night might be a homeowner.
Brixius said there was discussion about twin homes. Originally the site and building plan
excluded twin homes because they were in RI but it was changed and it now has application to
twin homes.
Hughes wanted to know if we should define a duplex.
Brixius said they can specifically spell it out.
b) NAC—6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.12—Lighting
Brixius referred to sections of the ordinance being amended, the definitions, and the fact that
lighting with larger projects has a concern with too much glare. He said it was desired to keep
lighting softer and not impede on the lake and adjoining properties.
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Brixius says the first section outlines the exemptions such as aviation and holiday lighting. The
glare component was the standard but it's been enhanced for residential. He said Page 2, f. 1) refers
• to the residential standards and pole height is outlined. Brixius stated a multiple family dwelling is
more restrictive. He said there are some exceptions for architectural and/or historical applications.
Brixius addressed security lighting and restrictions on flashing lights and anything that resembles
traffic control lighting.
Tyler asked if maximum lighting has been addressed. Brixius said there hasn't been a maximum
established. Brixius says it a ratio and a formula. On site they will allow for a range, a minimum
and the maximum. Klein asked how this affects persons having a neighbor with flood lights.
Brixius said it depends if it's bare bulb and directional. Brixius said he would be cautious about
nuisance issues. He said if there are complaints we have a basis for addressing it. Brixius said this
is easier than noise ordinances because it can be measured with a light meter. Maloney wondered
what would the enforcement process be.Hughes said the City would have to invest in a light meter
and a City official would be the person to enforce it.
Hughes asked about the numbers used and how they arrived at the lighting plan. Brixius said he
contacted the lighting person and he shared the formulas. Hughes referred to the middle light on
Spring Street and stated there is a new internal globe without a baffle. He said there's a lot more
light coming out of that light than the others. Hughes said Goman was asked to follow up with the
Mist Lofts and none of the Mist Lofts lighting has baffles. Hughes speculates there's going to be
more light at that location because of no baffles. Brixius said if we had approved them we could
get it corrected. Hughes said the City is willing to pay to take new readings. Brixius asked if the
lights are on the street. It may be a private property issue. He said if we have public safety
concern,we can look at it. Hughes said there is a dramatic difference in lighting intensity on Spring
• Street.
Seifert asked if we want the east and west lights to be up lighting.
Brixius said he thinks we need the lighting study and take new readings.
Klein wondered about the estimated costs.
Brixius said he's sure the person will quote us a price. He said we should ask him to review it. We
can still go forward and make a recommendation.
Hughes said Ridgeway of JE Dunn said none of their lights will have baffles.
Brixius says lighting closest to the building will be bright and, as it goes to the property line, it
dissipates so there isn't aggravating glare. Tyler said he used to live next door to an apartment
building and the lighting was too tall. He said it was obnoxious, everyone could see the luminary
and the glare extended a long way.
c) NAC—6/7/06
1. Ordinance 62.13 —Parking for Townhomes &Multiple Family Dwellings
Brixius said it's changing to 2 '/a parking spaces per unit and it has to be signed and visible
for guest parking.
d) NAC— 5/3/06
• 1. Ordinance 62.14—Plan Review
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Brixius said currently the ordinance allows for site and building plans and it is then determined if
they are compliant. He said this leaves the Planning Commision and Council vulnerable because
• there might not have been a review. Brixius joked that planners don't mind if it's approved
because they want someone to share the blame. He said for multiple family, commercial and
industrial land uses they will be required to submit site and building plans, building elevations and
floor plans. He said site plans will have to show set backs,parking, landscape plans, grading, site
drainage,ponding and utility plans as to how area will be serviced. Brixius went on to say
exceptions would be new construction of single family and accessory structures. These can still
can be handled by staff. He said modification will also be allowed if it doesn't exceed 10%.
Klein asked about a single family dwelling and Brixius said that is always exempt. He said we
don't want to be burdensome. Seifert said he is concerned about the wordage"new." He wonders
if this means is it totally new or is it just a new window. Brixius said they reviewed criteria for
review of long-range plans and site planning elements asking for attractive, functional designs
including colors and textures. Brixius said they look for energy conservation and compatibility
with adjoining property owners. Brixius also said new surveys are going to be required if they are
older than five years.
Klein wondered if there will be any"wiggle room"on surveys. Brixius said no. He said they
don't even have certainty that five years is adequate. Mason asked about older surveys and if
they're done by a certified surveyor, why it wouldn't be accurate. Brixius said because we don't
require site and building plan reviews for single family dwellings, someone could have put up a
shed and encroached on the property line. He said, in other words, things happen on the site.
Maloney said about the five-year benchmark stating five years seems to be short.
. Hughes said if he submitted to the City a registered survey and his neighbor also had a registered
survey and, if it was all the same, he wondered how that would change.
Maloney said a certificate of survey is just a piece of paper. It might not be staked.
Brixius said if you look at properties along Shoreline Drive you can't determine where property
lines are at. He said we might see more and more lot combinations so platting will be important.
Brixius said regarding site plans, grading and drainage has been described. On site plans they will
ask for property identifications, setbacks, locations and sidewalks. Brixius said they want them to
also locate heating and air conditioning units. It's become a big issue as of late.
Hughes asked about how it would apply to Xcel Energy. Brixius said it's an essential service so
they have a right to use our right-a-ways.
Brixius said sometimes it's a matter of where can they put the units. There might be only certain
places it can fit. He said he thinks they can expand it to state reasonable placement of public
utilities.
Seifert said in regards to the Lakeview Lofts problem it was so difficult to get in touch with a
contact person at Excel. He stated it can be added to the plan requirements but, as far as a
preference about where utilities are placed, it's the response that's difficult.
Brixius said he can put something in number 19 and Seifert said we can request it on the site
• proposal.
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Mason said that at least it's suggested and not overlooked. Brixius said grading and drainage
elements are required. He also said landscape requirements will be worked out more at the next
workshop. He said they are going to be asking for planting schedules, hardiness,planting
details, fences or retaining walls, and elevations.
Mason suggested something about root-ball size specification. He said certain trees require more
land for planting. He thinks they should put in specifications about how big the root ball is.
Maloney said that should be covered in the planting details. That's where sizes are addressed.
Brixius said they are looking to set up standards for landscape requirements
Hughes said Providence should have been asked about existing trees and what the plan was for
those. He said Providence had renderings but he wanted to see existing trees rather than an
indication of a clear cut. Hughes said the landscape plans should be more detailed with elevation
renderings and comparisons with existing showing the old and the new.
Seifert asked if the landscape plan for Providence has been approved.
Brixius stated yes, a revised plan has been submitted and everything was done with the last
approval.
Seifert thought the Council approved the preliminary plat but not the landscape plan.
e) NAC—5/3/06
1. Ordinance 62.15 —Trash Enclosures
Brixius said the changes are they want the enclosures to be walls with gates. He said as technology
changes they want it tall enough to service all. Brixius said this only applies to commercial,
industrial, industrial or multiple family(more than four).
Hughes said in other cities, four plexes can generate a lot of trash.
Brixius said they can change it to read four or more.
Seifert asked about an apartment building and if they're doing remodeling they're probably going
to have a dumpster. Seifert said there's nothing stated about temporary.
Brixius said it's in the construction staging plan ordinance but he said he can put something in the
language about construction dumpsters.
Mason said Shoreline Place a few years ago were required to fence in their recycling and they did
that.
Brixius said it's been addressed.
Maloney referred to Sippel's typed comments and said he asked about construction staging plans
required signage heading and he thinks it's a good idea and should be incorporated. Sippel also
recommended waiving the fine for Innovative Marketing, agenda item 5.d.
Brixius suggested a review of amendments to the ordinances before motions were made.
Seifert had a concern on letter h of Ordinance 62.11, Construction Staging. Noise activities can be
done according to what's written. He further stated there is a tension because there is going to be
noise associated and the ordinance says you can make noise but it then goes on to say it can't be
• unreasonable.
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Brixius asked if he was comfortable with the second sentence and he suggested the first sentence
could be taken out and just go with the second sentence.
Maloney recommended not to take out the first sentence.
Tyler thinks the first sentence should stay in also but it could state loud or excessive noise.
Hughes stated regarding the lighting amendment, there is not much recommendations to change
but everything should be contingent on whether the numbers work.
Maloney referred to the multiple family dwelling ordinance stating there were no changes.
Brixius said regarding the site plan review there are suggested changes on page three under 19,
Utility Plans, to use language that would illustrate plans for electric, cable, telephone, internet,
utility switching stations and satellites.
Hughes wondered if along with#19 we want to add the stacks at the Mist Lofts, that rise over the
roofline. Brixius said they're referred to as "roof details."Hughes said on the Mist Lofts those
turbine roof details were supposed to be flush and they're not. Klein said there weren't in the
drawings.
Hughes said the Landscape plans should provide an overview and elevations of old and new in the
building plans; roofline details should contain language about anything extending above the
rooflines.
Friesen said it talks about that on page 3,number 13 and asks if that language would cover those
• stacks. Brixius said redundancy sometimes is good. Hughes said he had a question on page 5,
number 7. He said it looks as though there is a typo in alphabetical arrangement.
Brixius said trash enclosure changes will be instead of more than four it will read four units or
more and on Construction Staging the changes will be from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Saturdays.
Maloney asked for other comments. There were no other comments.
3. Close public hearing.
Maloney closed the Public Hearing at 8:29 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council.
Brixius requested that motions be made on an individual basis.
Motion made by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to approve the
amendment to Ordinance 62.11, Construction Staging,with the exception of changing the
hours to 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Saturdays and adding the signage requirements as well as on
Page 4, letter h, in the first sentence under noise, take out the word loud in that sentence. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Motion made by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to approve the
amendment to Ordinance 62.12,Lighting,with the contingency that the formula numbers be
verified through the lighting specs and the numbers be clarified and reviewed. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
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Motion made by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to approve the
amendment to Ordinance 62.13, Parking for Multiple Family Dwellings. All votes were aye.
• Motion declared carried.
Motion made by Mason and seconded by Tyler to recommend to the Council to approve the
amendment to Ordinance 62.14, Plan Review,with the following changes: under Section 1,
Sec. 5, (c), (1) remove the word new; adding a number 19 to Section 1, Sec. 5.,f, 2, f, to read
utility plans such as cable t.v., internet and satellites; under (3) Landscape plan,the addition
of language regarding landscape elevations and old and new comparisons of the landscape
plans, including trees; under(6),Building Plans, specify roofline details extending above any
facility/structure above the roofline; and, re-letter the typos on number (7). All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
Motion made by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to approve the
amended Ordinance 62.15,Trash Enclosures, with the exception of"...instead of more than
four units" it will say"... four or more." All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Sign Permit Application, Tyconn, LLP, 4032 Shoreline Drive(Ted Storlie)
Maloney said the revised completed application was in the packets for review.
Friesen had more information to distribute and said she was able to locate a survey in the file so
she and Lewin went and measured the parking area.
Klein said she doesn't understand it.
Friesen said originally Tyconn claimed more parking on the north side but the survey indicates it's
• not his property.
Mason asked if the building itself is the property line.
Maloney asked what are the required number of spaces.
Friesen said using the calculations of the exterior dimensions, times two floors, minus 10% and
square footage divided by 200, he would need 24 spaces. Tyconn does meet the requirements and
would in fact conform.
Klein asked if there is any issue about him meeting the sign ordinance.
Friesen stated he hasn't been real clear about which post he is planning on putting the sign on.
Tyconn indicated the middle post and mentioned existing brackets but it's not real clear.
Maloney wondered if it really matters. She said we can approve.
Mason said he thinks it should be a requirement for a sign applicant to be present or the request
should be denied.
Klein said she thinks it's sometimes too difficult to require applicants to appear when there is only
one meeting per month.
Hughes made a recommendation that the parking be passed but it be reviewed with the owner for
approval. He also thinks it needs to be reviewed by the Council as the owner is having trouble
finding the property boundaries.
Friesen said he might be present.
• Tyler asked about colors for the proposed sign.
Friesen said he is willing to go with the recommended colors.
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Mason said if the applicant was present, questions could be asked in regards to parking, colors and
landscaping.
• Friesen said Tyconn came in prior to address some of the importance of these issues.
Mason said there should be a checklist and Maloney suggested maybe the application itself could
be revised.
Motion made by Klein that we approve the sign permit application for mini storage.
Tyler asked about Hughes' suggestions for approval.
Hughes said he would like to see the parking and landscape plan be forwarded to Council for
review, especially this one because the property owner is not aware of the boundaries of his
property. Hughes referred to the sign permit for the car wash and the fact the Council has spent
hours on this.
Friesen said we shouldn't put up barriers to new businesses, however Marina Car Wash is an
example about how it is a balancing act.
Klein modified the motion with the contingency that the Council review the parking plan
with the applicant. Mason seconded. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
c) Variance Request, 4600 West Arm Road
1. Continue Public Hearing
• Maloney read the language and the timeline. Klein thinks it should be denied as she doesn't see a
hardship.
2. Close public hearing at 8:55 p.m.
3. Recommendation to Council
Tyler wondered if there was a reason why he's withdrawing.
Hughes stated there really was no hardship. Bedell could come in and redesign the house and not
require a variance.
Mason thought Bedell might have been testing the waters to see if he could get something.
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to approve the
variance request for 4600 West Arm Road. Upon roll call: Klein, Mason, Maloney and
Tyler voted no. Motion declared failed.
d) Sign Permit Application, Innovative Marketing, 4284 Shoreline Drive
1) Staff Memo
Klein asked how this sign application transpired. Lewin explained that City staff noticed there
was a recent sign on the Tonka Ventures building and wondered if a permit had been applied for.
Lewin placed a call to Innovative Marketing and informed business owner it was required by
• ordinance that all business signs within the city be applied for and go through the process. Lewin
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also informed the business owner that he was now subject to a$200 fine because of the"after-the-
fact" application.
• Friesen suggested we write a letter and possibly waive the fine.
Klein thinks we need to enforce the ordinance with the renter rather than the building owner.
Tyler said the owner is responsible for the building and he doesn't believe it's the tenants'
responsibility.
Friesen agreed it should be to the owner of the building.
Klein said the Council would have to review the sign ordinance.
Mason said because it's a huge building and tenants change all the time, the owner should know
the ordinances.
Maloney asked if there were any concerns about the sign itself.
Klein said other than the size of the sign she no concerns.
Mason said he thinks we should make a recommendation to the Council.
Hughes said it's really the responsibility of Planning Commission to approve or disapprove the
sign.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Maloney to approve the sign for Innovative Marketing,
4284 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Hughes said it is his recommendation that staff research the ordinance and bring to the Council the
• findings on who a fine should be levied in this case.
Tyler is in favor of the building owner.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler that a fine be levied against the building owner for
the after-the-fact application for the sign. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
e) Sign Permit application, Amtech Lighting, 4311 Shoreline Drive.
Maloney states this is a nice, clean application that addresses all of the requirements.
Motion by Tyler and seconded by Klein to approve the sign application for multiple signs
approved for 4311 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The Following communications were noted:
a) July Calendar
Friesen said Hennepin County received a grant to do a study regarding the new trail. There will be
a comprehensive plan for five years and 10 years out. On June 27`h, the representatives are
coming to the City at 7 p.m. to do a presentation. Invitations will be sent out. Therefore, Friesen
is not sure about how the moratorium will work. She said if building permits slow down, the July
meeting of the Planning Commission could maybe be a moratorium workshop.
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b) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
c) Joint Meeting Minutes—4/27/06
d) Council Meeting—5/1/06
• e) Council Meeting—5/15/06
f) Council Workshop—5/25/06
g) Joint Meeting—5/25/06
h) Closed Council Meeting—6/1/06
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Mason wants to make a motion that a letter be sent out about Planning Commission attendance.
He said six months would be a fair time to evaluate attendance and send appropriate letters to
individuals who are not in compliance and find out their intentions.
Klein wondered if we have back-ups or alternates that could be called.
Friesen said not according to ordinance as the ordinance does not address attendance.
Hughes said he thought a guideline was 70-75%.
Klein said she thinks if attendance is below that, a letter should be sent.
Maloney said Sippel has apologized for his absence and thinks he will be attending in the future.
Maloney said Sippel does send opinions and comments on materials.
Klein thinks since there's been a lot of applicants recently that want to be on the Planning
Commission, we should address this.
0 Mason said the Council always has a full attendance.
Maloney said she thinks it's up to us to decide.
Hughes said as part of the analysis of the overall participation we should also include the
moratorium, workshops, workshops on various developments.
Maloney said she thinks maybe a letter would prompt a renewed interest or a decision about
whether to step down.
Hughes wondered if what they're asking is staff to go through minutes and tally full participation
attendance.
Mason and Maloney both stated just the Planning Commission meetings.
Friesen asked for a motion.
Klein asked if the criteria should be reviewed and then send a letter.
Hughes said we should look at the criteria set up by Planning Commission in regards to attendance
and then send a letter out asking their intentions. The guideline was 75% and he thought it was
set sometime in January or February of 2005.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein seconded that a letter be sent to the Planning
Commissioners not in attendance at tonight's meeting and calculate if they have met the
attendance criteria set. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to adjourn at 9:26 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
Wendy Lewin, ce Assistant
Sarah Friesen, Administrator
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
August 9, 2006
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —June 14, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application, Yanik Companies, 4400 Shoreline Drive (Chester
Yanik)
Note: Regretfully, Mr. Yanik is unable to attend P.C. meeting due to conflict
commitment.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) August Calendar
b) September Calendar
c) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
d) Council Meeting Minutes—July 10, 2006
e) Council Meeting Agenda—August 7, 2006
f)Building and Sign Report, July 2006
g) Set date selected by Council for next moratorium workshop
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
• 7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 9, 2006
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:03 followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mason, Maloney, Tyler, Anderson, Mork-Bredeson, ExOfficio Hughes, Council
Person Reinhardt present. Staff present, Administrator Friesen; Office Assistant
Lewin.
Excused: Klein and Sippel
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Anderson and seconded by Mason to adopt the agenda.
• 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—June 14, 2006
Motion by Anderson and seconded by Tyler to approve the Planning
Commission Minutes of June 14, 2006.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application, Yanik Companies, 4400 Shoreline Drive (Chester
Yanik)
Maloney said this is a complete application. Anderson asked about the necessity
for sign permit applications to come to the Planning Commission. Hughes said
administratively a temp sign can be decided upon but a sign permit application
also comes to Planning Commission so other questions can asked in regards to
landscaping and parking requirements.
Mason added by the applicant coming to the Planning Commission meeting it
gives the City an opportunity to meet the applicant and ask questions regarding
intentional use, etc. Hughes asked Friesen to comment on what was learned about
the after-the-fact sign. Friesen said when it has come to the attention of the City
that a sign has gone up without a permit, a letter is sent to the business owner
about the possibility of a fine. If the applicant doesn't respond to the
communication about the request for a sign application, a fine can be levied at
• that time. Friesen stated ordinance presides over policy.
(Mr. Yanik arrives at the meeting.)
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Mason asked if Yanik had any additional landscaping plans. Yanik responded yes
and said the sprinkler system has just been turned on in the last few days. He
• stated because of drought conditions, additional plantings would take place in the
spring. He said there are plans for more flowers and shrubbery off the entrance.
Yanik said he likes the boulevard but wants to make sure it's weed free. Yanik
went on to say the back side of the property has a terrace and it will have
shrubbery and perhaps a picnic bench for employees. He said he has been in the
Navarre area for 12 years and has lived in the Lake Mtka area for 26 years and it
is his intent to keep things nice.
Maloney asked about the ATM machine and Yanik said there is a five year
agreement with Wells Fargo for it to stay.
Tyler asked Yanik what his business is. Yanik said they are developers and
project managers and designers of medical facilities around the United States. He
just came from a ground breaking ceremony at St. James, Minnesota for the their
new community hospital.
Tyler asked about how many employees they had and Yanik responded nine and
he hopes to add more. Yanik said he has been working for seven years for the
City of St. Peter and has designed and built a new hospital there.
Mork Bredeson asked if the primary use of the building will be planning,
drawing, and construction management. Yanik said yes, for now.
• Mason asked if he's finished the remodeling project. Yanik stated no, they're still
painting, cleaning up and remodeling. Yanik said they want to do nice things
with the building as they plan on being there a long time.
Anderson asked whether Yanik was involved in the Gillespie Center and the
Ridgeview Medical partnership. Yanik stated they weren't involved in the latest
venture however they did build the Gillepsie Center and donated $45,000 towards
it.
Hughes asked if there was a percentage for remodeling versus new construction.
Yanik said 80% is new and the balance is remodeling. Yanik asked if the
Commission was familiar with the Lakeview Clinic in Waconia. They recently
did a 40,000 square foot remodel and 27,000 square foot addition. They've
worked at Children's Hospital as well.
Mason asked if he's considered to be a developer or an architect. Yanik stated
they do not do architectural drawings. Yanik is an architect however at the
present time they contract their design services. Yanik stated they do all the
financing of all of their projects. He said they want to be good citizens and
neighbors and they want to set an example. They consider themselves to be long-
term investors. All of his children have attended Mound Schools and he thinks
• it's a great community.
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Friesen said that we also want to be a good neighbor and Friesen wants him to
feel free to come to the City regarding any concerns about his neighbors as well.
• Mason commented that Yanik has a major advantage in not having outside
storage.
Yanik stated there will not be construction trailers or large vehicles parked at the
building. He said in time they perhaps have plans for expansion. He would maybe
some day tear down the present bank building and build a new building that
would house his property and other office space. Maybe they would look to
acquiring the storage facility behind and doing something with that. Yanik said
they would like to perhaps be a gateway to the City and hopes they will be seen as
an enhancement to the City.
Mason asked if Yanik's planning on building any condos. Yanik said no.
Friesen asked about the tenant in the lower level and Yanik stated he inherited the
lease of Danberry and they are planning on staying.
Maloney asked if there were any further concerns or questions regarding the
application for this sign permit.
Mork-Bredeson makes a motion and Anderson seconded to accept the
application for a sign permit to be located at 4400 Shoreline Drive.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
• a) August Calendar
b) September Calendar
c) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
d) Council Meeting Minutes—July 10, 2006
Anderson asked about the Planning Commission examining the attendance of
Planning Commission members. Maloney responded it wasn't mentioned in the
Council Minutes, it was in the Planning Commission Minutes.
e) Council Meeting Agenda—August 7, 2006
f) Building and Sign Report, July 2006
Friesen stated the Council has requested some additional information to be listed
on the report so there will be more information on subsequent building and sign
reports.
g) Set date selected by Council for next moratorium workshop
Friesen said it didn't get decided at the Council meeting so a date wasn't set.
Friesen said she has some dates Brixius is available. Tuesday the 29th sounded
good for the architectural landscaping,permits and fees. The 3 1" is close to a
holiday weekend so that won't work. Maloney thought Thursday the 24th would
work. Reinhardt can't make the 241h because of the State Fair. Friesen said
Tuesday the 29th sounds like it will work for Planning Commission members and
she'll pass that on.
• Mason asked about the August dinner in regards to the City appreciation. Friesen
said she thinks it might be in September because of everything that's going on.
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MISCELLANEOUS
• Hughes said a lot of the moratorium resolutions have been published and are now in
force. Mason said Hughes always mentions the Planning Commission to the Council
and keeps the Planning Commission alive in their eyes. Mason said Hughes carried
the ball on the Storlie building in regards to the parking and has made sure it is
correct.
Tyler said he wanted to address the Commission on an idea for consideration. Tyler
said his daughter was recently a recipient of a"Christmas in May" gift of a house
makeover. Fifty volunteers donated their time as well as materials,paint, tools and
lunches. There was an extreme makeover done of her two story home in which they
painted it, cut down trees and did some landscaping. They started around 8 a.m. and
finished at 5 p.m. An electrician changed the electrical system to a circuit breaker
system. Tyler stated this group has done about 20 homes in Chaska and they do
about two a year. Volunteers felt good about it and it was a nice event. Tyler
wondered if anything like that has ever been done in Spring Park.
Mork-Bredeson said she thought it was an excellent idea and brought up the effort to
paint the old depot. Mork-Bredeson thought there was some definite property in
Spring Park that would benefit from this sort of volunteer effort. She remembers
when the City went through a process looking for donations and materials. She will
call Jackie Stone and ask her about where the effort broke down. Tyler added he
thinks the process should start small. Hughes thought maybe a yard cleanup for an
• older couple or to clean a garage. Anderson said he thinks something like this
should be beneficial to the community, perhaps something to dress up Thor
Thompson Park. Anderson said from his experience it's tough to get volunteers. He
said we could possibly team up with Mound. Mason suggested Presbyterian Homes
has been involved in volunteering in the past, maybe they could contribute in some
way. Maloney said she thinks it's worth pursuing. Tyler said he will get the
information from Chaska.
Hughes wanted to discuss a variance potential for the next meeting. He said it's
going to go to the planner first for their opinion. Hughes said it's a variance to add a
garage to a small lot as well as a deck. Mason asked where it's located. Mason was
told since they have applied for the variance it's public information. The residence is
on Black Lake Road. Hughes thinks it would be appropriate when it does come in
the packet, that the application and minutes from the previous Planning Commission
and Council meetings about rebuilding should be included for background
information.
Mason suggested a drive by at 2406 Black Lake Road to just look at what's being
built. Hughes commented from his experience sitting on the Council and Planning
Commission, going back and visiting projects and what has been voted on and what
it ends up looking like,whether it's parking, landscaping or building, it's interesting
to look back on motions and decisions. Hughes said if you look at various variances
that come through, for instance Chris Snow, Hughes said it's beneficial to go back
• afterwards to see the outcome.
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Mason thought there were about six or eight variances for 2406 Black Lake Road.
Mason refers to a utility easement. Hughes stated in the end it was only one
• variance, the setback from the utility easement. Friesen said it's important to keep in
mind this construction is still in the early stages.
Mason said it's his personal feelings but these things get built, people live in them a
few years and then they leave. He believes there are many however who want to
stay in Spring Park and invest in the community.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Anderson made the motion, Mork-Bredenson seconded it, meeting adjourned. 7:52
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Wendy Lewin
Office Assistanf-
Sdrah Friesen
Administrator/Clerk/Treasurer
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
• AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
September 13, 2006
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—August 9, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Variance Application— Graham Neve, 2401 Black Lake Road
1. Open Public Hearing 7 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
a) Application for Variance
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
• a)NAC Memo—August 28, 2006
i) Site Plan/Survey
ii) Council Minutes, April 7, 2003
iii) Planning Commission Minutes, March 26, 2003
iv) Resolution 03-10
b) Sign Permit App Permanent—Scott Sternitzke, 4420/4400 Shoreline Drive
c) Sign Permit App Temp—Mark Tipler, one day event August 18th
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Training Opportunities, Memo from Sarah Friesen, 9-7-06
b) Memo from Wendy, 9-8-06
c) October Calendar
d) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
e) Building and Sign Report, August 2006
f) Council Minutes—August 7, 2006
g) Council Minutes—August 21, 2006
h) Special Meeting Council—August 21, 2006
i) Special Meeting Council—August 29, 2006
j) Special Joint Meeting—August 29, 2006
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
• MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING
September 13,2006
7:00 P.M.-CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:00 followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL, Anderson, Klein, Mason, Maloney and Bill Tyler present. Excused,
Sippel. Staff present, Administrator Friesen, Office Assistant Lewin, Ex-Officio
Hughes,Advisor Reinhardt. Mork-Bredeson, absent.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Anderson and seconded by Mason to adopt the agenda.
Friesen said there will be additions to the Miscellaneous part of the agenda regarding
Planning Commission attendance, the upcoming volunteer appreciation dinner and a
beautification letter to be added to the agenda.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—August 9, 2006
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to approve the Planning Commission
• Minutes of August 9,2006.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Variance Application—Graham Neve, 2401 Black Lake Road
1. Open Public Hearing 7 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
a) Application for Variance
The public hearing was opened at 7:05 p.m. Graham Neve approached the podium and
said his proposal is to put a detached garage and an attached deck at 2401 Black Lake
Road. Neve passed out a full set of plans and explained the first page was a full survey.
He said this survey was done in '03 when house was built. He further explained the next
page shows a partial survey and there is a proposed deck and proposed garage footprint.
He said the garage proposal is 20 x 24,the smallest two car garage he could get on the
property. Neve admits he wants to get something on the property due to harsh
Minnesota winters. He said the next page is the deck layout and the proposed garage.
He said it shows it from each lot line. He said the best he could do was 45 feet from the
lake and a 12 feet from the road. He said compared to the average houses on Black Lake
Road,he is pretty close. He said ten feet was approved because of existing footprint.
Neve said in some cases there are homes less than 10 feet from the road. He said 20 feet
is the minimum so,if going 20 feet back it gets him 45 feet from the shoreline.Neve
said he was able to decrease the existing hardcover from 30%to 27%. He said what's
important is the new garage would improve water and sediment runoff. Neve said right
• now everything is going from the road to the lake. Neve said basically what is needed is
20 x 24 for the garage and that's the smallest he can go and all he could figure out. If
there is something else someone can suggest he is willing to listen.
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Neve showed a pamphlet put together by his realtor which states comparable sale prices
• are about$663,000. He said without a garage they'd be loosing about$63,000 on the
sale. He said the house has been on the market for 136 days and there hasn't been a lot
of interest and the lack of a garage is the deterrent. He said he started at$699,000. He
said even a one car garage would help. He said one of the reasons why they didn't build
the garage when the house was rebuilt in 2003 is there was 1860 square feet and if a one
car garage had been planned they would have lost about 600 square feet and they felt
they didn't have that to lose. Neve said some people have asked him why they didn't go
up a level and Neve said he didn't believe it would fit in the neighborhood.
Anderson asked Neve if he built the house to sell and Neve responded that he built the
house to be on the lake. He said he built the house with another guy and they've each
gotten married and now they need to sell this house. Klein asked if Neve lived nearby
and he said he lives next door. He currently rents the house but hopes to buy it but it's
dependent on this house selling.
Maloney asked Neve how he thinks a garage will improve water and sediment runoff.
Neve said right now it runs down the driveway and right into the lake. Neve said with
the new garage they would lift it up and create a barrier from the lake. He further
explained there would be a type of swale below the garage. He said right now there's
nothing stopping it. Neve said he's aware that the drainage is not good now and going
right into the channel. Mason asked if he was concerned about environmental issues.
Neve said he's concerned about selling it. Mason said he looked at the property and at
the shoreline and said it has never been rip rapped. Maloney asked if the original
• submittal had the storm sewer illustrated.Neve said he would be interested in working
on getting the drainage changed. Tyler asked where the water would go. He wondered
how a garage would help it. Neve said the water isn't the problem, it's the sediment
that they could deter. Mason said he noticed the surrounding garages are mostly
attached garages. Mason referred back to when they originally built the house in 2003
and Neve didn't want to build the garage at that time. Maloney said she doesn't see the
easement line on the plan. Neve said the ten foot dimension is the property line. He said
the drainage goes between the 10 foot mark. Hughes asked that Neve put the drawing up
and point out the markings. He points out the south property line and points out the
drainage going into the lake. He said there's about five feet in between. Neve wondered
if there were any recommendations on this property line. Maloney said it's a really
important point because building within the easement would be critical.
Friesen said the planner's report came back and now there's something different being
proposed. Maloney suggested that the planner hasn't seen the correct plan. Neve said
he hasn't had enough notice. He said he was told he'd get calls back from the engineer.
He said he hasn't had a returned phone call. Maloney said she feels the planner needs to
review the new plan. Maloney said what will be needed is the utility easement
dimensions. Maloney said the public hearing can be tabled until the next meeting.
Hughes stated hardship will have to be proven and there is specific language as to
proving hardship. Klein thinks she heard $63,000 but said it can't be financial.
Friesen read the language regarding the hardship. Friesen read the recommendation of
• the planner regarding changing the location of the garage. Mason said Neve's hardship
is economic and Neve responded saying it's more than that; it's the Minnesota winters.
Maloney read a letter from Steven and Pauline Erickson,neighbors. Hughes said
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regarding previous requests there have been car ports that have been denied. Mason
referred back to the Planning Commission minutes in 2003 where it was suggested then
• that they put a deck on. Neve said at the time they were more worried about getting the
house built rather than getting a garage. Klein asked about when they first bought the
property and was he aware that this was a difficult lot. Tyler asked why when the first
variance request came forward it was deemed an unbuildable lot. Friesen stated it was
because the lot was undersized. However there was an existing house on the property.
Mason asked how many variances it took to build the house and Neve thought three or
four. Klein asked what if he got the deck but not the garage,would it change the deck.
Neve stated it would stay about four feet from the corner of the deck. Klein asked why it
would stop short and Neve said because that's where the header was. Friesen asked if
they'd do anything below the deck and Neve stated wood chips. Friesen wondered if
they would consider a one stall garage and they'd be away from the storm sewer. Neve
said they've considered it but didn't think they'd gain a lot. Friesen said we could let
Neve know about the storm sewer. Hughes said it could be ten feet on either side. The
NAC letter doesn't spell out the correct material as the plan was changed. Friesen asked
with the garage proposal here, was a basement underneath it. Neve said it is a built in
storage shed. An audience member asked how close to the street would they be with
parking in front of the garage. Klein wondered if parking would be worse if the garage
was allowed. Neve said yes, it would. Klein said she is concerned that the house is for
sale. Maloney said to approve variance,hardship has to be proven. Neve said he's
looked at every option and he wanted to keep it as far away from the lake as possible and
45 feet was the best he could do. Hughes said he thinks the sewer is further in on the
property than Neve thinks it is. Mason wonders about the rip rapping of the lakeshore
and runoff. Hughes said the City is looking at updating the drain as soon as the Meyer
• property has determined the driveway location. Hughes said there will be a clean out
installed. Mason wondered about screening and a silt fence. Maloney asks for other
comments from the public. Neve wants to say if it was considered there could be a
provision stating the shoreline could be rip rapped. Maloney doesn't know that it's
relevant.
3. Close Public Hearing
Maloney closes the public hearing at 7:49 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
a)NAC Memo—August 28, 2006
i) Site Plan/Survey
ii) Council Minutes, April 7, 2003
iii) Planning Commission Minutes, March 26, 2003
iv) Resolution 03-10
Hughes said there needs to be a recommendation to the Council whether to deny the
request or approve. Friesen said there could be two motions, one approving the deck and
a recommendation to approve the garage. Tyler said it's a different plan presented
tonight. Hughes said they could recommend for approval on a redesign of the deck.
Anderson makes a motion and Maloney seconds to approve the deck in the second
drawing subject to the dimensions to the Council. Hughes thinks it needs to be
redesigned as a stand alone. Mason said we could approve a deck pending a redesign.
Friesen says to put a condition on the deck so it's 6.7 x 19.9. Mason asks how different
the second deck is to the submitted proposal. Neve said it's similar. 9' x 19.9 feet.
• Tyler said looking at the diagram,there is a door that leads from the house to the deck.
Neve said yes. Maloney wonders what variance the deck would require. Friesen said
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it's the 50' setback. 38.5 feet from the lake is the shortest distance. The deck requires a
variance. Anderson withdraws his motion.
• Klein said she is inclined to table the variance request it. Friesen stated she believes the
City can suspend it and give the applicant notice in writing. Maloney said it gives
another month to work with the planner and hardship will still have to be proven. Tyler
said in fairness to the resident there isn't much that can convince him that the garage is
warranted. Tyler thinks the deck is workable but it bothers him that he still will need a
variance. Tyler said as far as the garage is concerned it just isn't going to work. He
feels there's nothing that can be done. Tyler said the garage proposal would need to be
built up. Tyler's recommendation be that the garage be denied and work with the
planner before Monday so there isn't a variance request for the deck. Tyler makes a
motion and Anderson seconds to recommend approval to the Council for the
variance on the garage. Roll call,Tyler no,Maloney no,Anderson, no Mason, no
Klein no. Motion failed. Klein said regarding the deck it is suggested Neve work with
the planner to minimize or eliminate the need for any variance requirement. Hughes said
on page 44,paragraph 6 and 7 there is language where if there is(using irrelevant
numbers)two to three structures 25 feet from the high water mark and the middle
property is further back, there is language that there can be a variance granted. Klein
recommends approval of the deck pending NAC's approval based on discussions
here tonight. Mason seconds, all votes ayes. Motion carries. Hughes suggested the
deck be redesigned and brought to the City in order to get it in the Council packet for
Friday. Friesen asked if Neve can get us the material to get to the planner by Friday and
Neve said yes.
• b) Sign Permit App Permanent—Scott Sternitzke, 4420/4400 Shoreline Drive
Mr. Sternitzke currently rents office space from Chester Yanik and Yanik informed him
that he would need a sign permit in order to display a sign. Scott read in the application
that there is a recommended color scheme but his signs have been the same color scheme
as his business cards. Mason asked where the sign would go and Sternitzke said Yanik
doesn't want it too close to his sign. Sternitzke said the position was marked on the
attached illustration of approximately where the sign would be placed. Mason asked
about a sign board and Sternitzke said he didn't believe so because Yanik recently had a
stand alone sign made. Klein asked if the sign application meets the City's perimeters.
Maloney asked if he's considered sharing Danberry's post. Maloney said they don't
want it to look temporary. She said keeping in the professionalism of building
companies it might look better to tie them all together. Sternitzke said he didn't believe
there'd be anyone else going in the building. Mason said Yanik indicated there wouldn't
be construction trailers and he wondered who the trailers belonged to. Sternitzke said
they belong to Danberry. Klein asked about parking and Mason asked how many
vehicles they planned on parking. Scott said two. Friesen asked how the sign will be
attached. Scott said he illustrated it on the application consisting of 2 pieces with a 4x4,
post in the center, it will y out. Maloney asked about the temporary stakes like
Danberry. Maloney said the concern is for things to look nice. Sternitzke said it's his
intent too. Mason wonders if the posts can be sided in order to make them look nicer.
Sternitzke said he thinks that would make it more difficult to maintain. Klein said it
seems to meet the requirements. Friesen said she's reading the code. Friesen said the
amount of signs have exceeded the amount according to code if you consider the Yanik
• sign on the side of the building. Maloney thought the one sign on the building is more
of a logo type sign. Maloney thinks the City would be very happy if he got together
with Danberry and to think about a combination sign. Maloney thinks a flashier nice
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sign may make his business more noticeable as well. Friesen said if the sign on the side
of the building is considered a logo, then it can be approved. Tyler said he liked the way
• the material was described and it wasn't described that way on the application. He said
the application said it was plywood but Tyler likes the idea that it was described in more
detail at the meeting. Stemitzke was asked to describe the proposed sign one more time
for the minutes. Sternitzke said it will consist of three treated 4 x 4 posts,painted white,
two 4 x 4 sheets of sign board. Sign board being a special type of marine plywood and it
won't delaminate and warp. The lettering will be vinyl in the indicated colors. Mason
said he would still like things combined. Tyler thinks it's a professional center and a
combination sign might be nice in the future. Mason makes a motion and Tyler
seconds it to approve the sign as stated in the minutes. All in favor. Yes.
c) Sign Permit App Temp—Mark Tipler, one day event August 181h
Approved noting this is an event that already took place and it was addressed for
informational purposes only.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Training Opportunities, Memo from Sarah Friesen, 9-7-06
Klein wondered when a response would be needed. Friesen said it fills up fast so, for the
Mound training, a head count tonight would be helpful. Maloney said she'd like to
attend. Friesen reminded everyone it was on a Saturday. Klein asked if the City pays
and wondered if it was similar to the one held in Tonka Bay a few years ago. Friesen
said this is a part two so it's not quite the same. Mason wondered about the city paying.
Hughes said the issue is the City would pay but there were situations where the City paid
and then some didn't show up. Hughes thought it might have been an overreaction and
. Hughes said the City should pay for it. Reinhardt said she remembers there was a
discussion about it but no motion was made. Anderson wants to go, Bill Tyler and
Mason will go. Klein said she'll check her calendar and get back. Klein decided she
wants to go now.
b) Memo from Wendy, 9-8-06
Christmas in May. Maloney and Klein thinks it would be great to have Mary from the
City of Chaska come speak to the November Planning Commission meeting and asked
they be contacted.
c) October Calendar
d) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
e) Building and Sign Report, August 2006
Maloney asked about Bedell needing a variance and it was noted a variance wasn't
needed. They redesigned the building to fit the perimeters and requirements without
needing a variance.
f) Council Minutes—August 7, 2006
g) Council Minutes—August 21, 2006
h) Special Meeting Council—August 21, 2006
i) Special Meeting Council—August 29, 2006
j) Special Joint Meeting—August 29, 2006 Maloney said she got the packet one day
before the meeting. Maloney asking for a notification of the date or at least a phone call
in order to give more notice.
7. MISCELLANEOUS
• Commissioner attendance.
Volunteer appreciation dinner September 28`h
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Beautification letter from Reinhardt. Reinhardt said the Council is in the process of setting
the budget. In the past, the budget money has mostly been used for maintenance of existing.
is the
said there's always room for improvement and since the Planning Commission is
the beautification committee and she feels they've been left out of decision making. She said
the group has great ideas and they should have input. She said the Planning Commission did
weigh in on the flag pole at Thor Thompson park and it looks so nice. Reinhardt thinks it
might be nice to put together a list over the winter months to present a solid plan for the
budgeting cycle. Reinhardt thinks they could make a small recommendation for 2007 as it
may not be too late. Klein said if she understands it right a budget is approved and then the
Planning Commission gets the figures and they put together a plan. Reinhardt said she is
suggesting the Planning Commission come up with a plan and then this plan should be put
before the Council and they can ask for the dollars rather than taking what the City assigns
them for a beautification budget.
Tyler wonders if some of those dollars could be earmarked towards the Christmas in May
project. He said some of the things are donated but maybe the City could earmark some
money towards that. Reinhardt said the City may be limited when it comes to charitable
contributions and there would need to be a legal document for services rendered. She's not
sure this can be done.
Hughes wanted to bring up term of office and asked Friesen to put together a list about
notifying present members it they are interested in continuing. He said if a term is up, a letter
of intent should be drafted.
Klein wanted to thank the city for fixing the pot hole in front of her house. She said it is so
nice and she was so appreciative of the work. Anderson wondered if Norling ever tagged the
• trees that he was going to cut down. Maloney saw tags around the ones he was going to
keep. Hughes said when Norling approached the Planning Commission and the Council that
he would make every effort to save the trees. He had lots of conversations with the former
administrator and he had to change some things to save a tree and keep the tree alive.
Maloney said the bulk of the trees taken down were not quality trees.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at Motion by Klein, Anderson seconds. 8:49 p.m.
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Office Assistant
Safah Friesen
Administrator/Clerk/Treasurer
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AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
• October 11,2006
7:00 P.M.-CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—September 13, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Code Revision on Escrow and Fees
1. Open Public Hearing 7:00 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
b) Lighting Ordinance
1. Open Public Hearing 7:00 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
• 3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
c) Variance Application—Graham Neve, 2401 Black Lake Road
1. Open Public Hearing 7:30 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
a)NAC Memo—September 18, 2006
i) Site Plan/Survey
ii)Planning Commission Minutes 9-13-2006 (refer to#4 in agenda packet)
iii) Council Minutes 9-18-06
iv) Erickson letter
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Note: October Calendar addition,Moratorium Meeting 10-30-06 7-9 PM
b) Mound training workshop flier,October 14`h
c) November Calendar
d) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
e) Building and Sign Report, September 2006
f) Terms of office
g) Council Minutes—September 18, 2006
• 7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 11, 2006
7:00 P.M. —CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the pledge of allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Klein, Mason, Maloney, Tyler and Ex-Officio Hughes were present and Mork Bredeson,
Anderson and Sippel were excused. Staff present: Administrator Friesen, Deputy Clerk
Corl and Office Assistant Lewin. Others present: Dan Petrik, City Planner.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Maloney noted a discussion on beautification was supposed to be on the agenda.
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
• Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES — September 13, 2006
Klein noted a correction on page 5, #6.e) "perimeters" should be "perameters".
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission meeting for September 13, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Code Revision on Escrow and Fees
1. Open Public Hearing 7:00 p.m.
Chair Maloney opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
Petrik noted the fees are broken into two categories, single family and two family lots
and other uses. It pointed out the fees are lower for single family and higher for other
projects. He explained the fee is usually taken from an application for administrative
items, etc. to obtain information toward the application. Petrik said escrow is
collected and pays for the services for the engineer, planning and plan review costs.
He said unused escrow is a refundable fee. He referred to the last paragraph that
• states if costs were higher the applicant would have to pay more than what is in
escrow.
Petrik said the Development Application is for a variety of applications. Klein
verified this would bring the City in line with surrounding communities. She asked
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why the other application templates were not attached. Petrik pointed out this is an
• all purpose application including residential. Friesen asked when we should be
considering using this application versus our variance application, etc. Petrik pointed
out this form is a master cover page for residential and other applications and it is
signed by the property owner if the applicant is not the property owner. He said the
master list is to cover the fee structure.
Maloney stated some information on our other applications could be redundant.
Klein asked when this is going to be used. Petrik said it would be used for the items
on the request list on the application. Friesen stated this form is not replacing the
applications we now use and this form is being recommended by NAC. Hughes said
with a variance application more specific language is used and this is the cover sheet
for the other applications. He said we need a definition regarding multiple variance
requests on one application. Petrik said it does not take that much more time if there
are multiple variance requests on one single family application. Hughes would still
like to see clarification with the definition.
They briefly discussed how to cover costs when extra work is done by the City to
review an application. Petrik said these costs would be covered with escrow funds.
He said he could add clarification regarding multiple variance requests. Klein
suggested to change the variance application to be more specific i.e. variances
numbered. Mason pointed out the variances on the agenda tonight are not numbered.
Petrik pointed out the escrow component protects the City. Tyler suggested this
• application be re-titled Variance and Development Application.
Petrik pointed out the Mist review costs were very high; big projects cost a lot of
money and a lot of contract staff time. Hughes suggested clearly defining residential
and commercial on the fee schedule and Maloney agreed. Friesen stated this is just a
work sheet. Dan said he would make the format clear. Tyler asked if our expenses
are less than what is escrowed does the applicant receive a refund and was told yes.
Tyler said this was not shown on the application. Maloney said "escrow" implies the
fund is there as a back up.
Briefly discussed was making separate accounts for each escrow. Friesen said we
have to keep track of the interest. Petrik said he could add a statement the money
would be refunded to the applicant if there was any left over.
3. Close Public Hearing
Chair Maloney closed the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
Hughes said the Commissioners could make a recommendation to approve the
ordinance amendment with the addition on the application regarding multiple
variances and a modification on the form to indicate the applicant would receive a
refund of unused monies and column one would be clarified and the title changed to
• General Land Use Application.
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Motion by Klein and seconded by Tyler to recommend to the Council to approve
• the ordinance amendment on fees and escrows and expenses based on the above
mentioned additions. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Lighting Ordinance
1. Open Public Hearing
Chair Maloney opened the public hearing at 7:27 p.m.
a) Notice of Public Hearing
2. Discussion& Comments
Petrik said there are two key parts in the ordinance amendment, one is the nuisance
light trespass issue and the other is light for safety and welfare. He pointed out
lighting concerns started with the Mist and Lakeview Lofts' projects. The other
portion is lighting standards for residential and commercial.
Petrik referred to Sec 3. Subd. C — Exterior Lighting. He pointed out he created
exceptions and used current language for non conforming uses. He referred to the
light trespass performance standards and the method of measuring light intensity and
performance standards. Petrik said the performance standard is a flexible standard;
addresses shielding in a residential area and it holds a commercial area to a higher
standard.
Petrik read the list on page 3, public institutional. He said this category is limiting
locations of lights, keeping light fixtures away from adjacent properties, limiting
• hours in commercial establishments. Hughes said the way this is worded most of the
signs in the City are illegally illuminated i.e. the new BP sign on Shoreline Drive. He
said this portion this still needs some work or we would have to tell businesses to turn
off their lights at night.
Friesen said it would be difficult to have every business turn off their lights on
Shoreline Drive. Hughes asked if we want their lights on. Mason said we do in a
commercial area. Hughes said this ordinance amendment says to turn them off. He
referred to page 3, f. 2. and said we need clarification. Tyler stated when we approve
signs, we need to approve the lighting. Friesen said that kind of lighting has never
been in the ordinance before and we need to address it when approving a sign. She
said we should have lights on Shoreline Drive. She said future applications for lit
signs have to be addressed. Klein said this is light pollution. Petrik said we could
write to grandfather in existing lights. Hughes objects to the general concept because
it discourages commerce. Petrik said we could keep, modify or delete the wording.
He referred to outdoor recreation and said this section prohibits flashing lights. He
said the purpose of the minimum lighting requirements for parking lots and pedestrian
areas is to create safe movement and enhance security. He said the idea is to create a
range the eye can see and this is referred to as a maximum to minimum range. He is
suggesting changing the `average' to `minimum to maximum'. He said the minimum
average light is .2 candles in Spring Park.
• Petrik referred to his memo of 9/6. He suggested the minimum lighting requirements
be replaced with the table on page 5. He pointed out foot candle readings depend on
height of the poles and the wattage; the max to min is 23.5 to 1 ratio and that is higher
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than the recommendation. He said a .2 foot candle is recommended for safety. Tyler
• said a 20 to 1 ratio seems a lot brighter. Maloney said that is recommended for a
minimum standard.
Petrik referred to the diagrams with cutoff classifications for light standards. He said
the cost would be lower with lower cut off heights; spacing poles out further would
have an effect on costs. He added it is important to know the difference and the costs.
Hughes asked how bollard lighting compares to this. Petrik said they do no provide
broad illumination and it is an entirely different approach. Maloney asked if, for
example, the shopping center would they be able to light their parking lot how we
require. Petrik said they would require more poles and this would also drive up costs.
Petrik said he is suggesting two changes in the ordinance amendment; replacing the
minimum lighting requirements on page 2 of his memo dated 9/6 with the matrix on
page 5. Hughes said the Planning Commission and the Council have dealt with this
chart and tried to understand it and he is concerned there are less numbers and less
clarity with the recommended change. Maloney stated the understanding of this falls
on the city engineer. Hughes said his concern is the Council will say we are starting
over. Maloney stated we rely on outside sources to do our reviews.
Petrik said he has consulted with a lighting consultant since he did the light charts for
the Council. Hughes suggested using both charts. Petrik said he is trying to establish
a minimum for a low volume commercial area and make it safe. Hughes said he
• agrees with the recommendation. Petrik also recommended adding the definitions in
the ordinance amendment.
Friesen referred to page 4 of the amendment regarding the prohibition of search
lights. She stated she would prohibit them and asked if we need them. Klein said
they could fall under special use. Petrik explain the exceptions he listed. Friesen said
the City might want to prohibit them entirely and they do affect neighboring areas.
Mason asked why they were put in. Petrik pointed out it was for guidance if it should
be needed. Hughes suggested the Commissioners make a recommendation to the
Council and Petrik will address the questions and concerns expressed in the
discussion.
3. Close Public Hearing
Chair Maloney closed the public hearing at 8:12 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
Petrik reviewed concerns are the hours of lighting and the value of lighting in the
commercial corridor; setting up the standards for lighting; and not allow search lights
or just further limit their use. Maloney said to also keep the full cut off classification
of light versus other cut offs.
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Klein to recommend to approve the
• lighting ordinance amendment as written with the exceptions that uniformity
lighting include the new description and make change to include the full cut off
as an acceptable standard and keep hours and searchlights as stated. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
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• Tyler would like the lighting issue with signs put on another Planning Commission
agenda.
c) Variance Application—Graham Neve, 2401 Black Lake Road
Present: Graham Neve & Paul Fadell, property owners.
1. Open Public Hearing
a) Notice of Public Hearing
Chair Maloney opened the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. and read the notice
regarding the public hearing that was published in the Laker Newspaper.
2. Discussion& Comments
a) NAC Memo—September 18, 2006
i) Site Plan Survey
ii) Planning Commission Minutes 9-13-2006 (refer to 44 in agenda packet)
iii) Council Minutes 9-18-06
iv) Erickson Letter
Maloney read this letter into the minutes during the meeting.
Neve stated he addressed the issue with the catch basin. He said the proposed garage
is 16' by 22' wide and the deck is going off the south side of the house. He said the
garage is 35 feet from the lake; it is 18 feet from the street to the corner of the garage
and is in the average setback range. Neve said this was changed from 12 feet. He
pointed out NAC was concerned with the flare in the south driveway curb cut. Neve
• said he can easily eliminate this if the variance request is approved. He read portions
of the ordinance that applied to his request on pages 44, 45 and 76. He added the
special conditions exist on this property.
Maloney asked if any bituminous areas would be changed. Neve said he would be
reducing the hardcover from 30% to 27%. Mason asked what the hardship is. Neve
said it is the shape of the property. Mason noted Neve had pointed out at an earlier
date that many houses on Black Lake Road do not have garages and that is not true.
Neve said he was referring to attached garages. Hughes asked if the hydrant was on
this property. Neve thought it was on 2413 Black Lake Road.
Petrik asked where the elevation point is from the street level. Neve said it was a
difference of 5 to 6 feet. Petrik verified it is lower than the main level of the house.
Maloney asked Neve how he is going to deal with water drainage. Neve said now
everything drains to the house. Maloney stated is going to be difficult to get run off
not to go into the garage. Hughes pointed out the garage floor would be 2 feet lower
than the house. Maloney asked Neve to consider raising the garage. Petrik said that
would improve the site line.
Petrik said Neve is asking for a front yard set back from the street. He referred to the
ordinance and stated the proposed garage is within the 15% of the shoreline and
within the ordinance. It was pointed out the hardship is in the slope of the lot and this
• proposal is reducing the hardcover. Mason said the hardship was created when the
house was built. Neve pointed out the height of the house is close to what is required
and if a garage was added when the house was built it would have increased that and
he wanted it to blend in with the surrounding area but things change.
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• Klein stated she is concerned the hardship was created and the garage would increase
the density on the lake and there is overbuilding in that neighborhood. Hughes asked
Petrik if Neve would need a variance to make a flat landing for cars and was told no.
It was verified the easement is there but it was not recorded. Petrik said the property
owner has to record the easement at his expense if the variance is approved. Mason
expressed concern with problems of home owners passed on to the City referring to a
swale. Maloney asked the average set back on that street and was told it is 18 feet.
3. Close Public Hearing
Chair Maloney closed the public hearing at 8:43 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
Hughes asked how Neve is going to address the run off on the driveway and off the
roof on the north side. Neve said with proper irrigation and proper drainage of the
land around it. Petrik recommended installing a rain garden and that would also
provide an improved situation for water quality. He added he encourages property
owners to use water gardens for such solutions especially when water is flowing off
of a public street. Mason pointed out additional rip rap on the shoreline would help
improve erosion. Maloney said she does not see how that relates to the garage.
Mason stated everything is open for discussion. Petrik said that depends where the
erosion is coming from. Hughes asked if the property owners are going to construct
the garage or obtain a variance for a future owner. Neve pointed out if approved he
• has a year to start a building after a permit is approved.
Motion by Maloney and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to
approve an 18 foot variance from the street for a garage for 2401 Black Lake
Road. Upon roll call Klein, Mason and Tyler voted no and Maloney voted aye.
Motion declared failed.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Note: October Calendar addition, Moratorium Meeting 10-30-06, 7-9 pm
b) Mound training workshop flier, October 141h
Maloney expressed apologies for not being able to attend.
c) November Calendar
d) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
e) Terms of office
Klein asked if there was non conforming hardcover for Tony Pollock's property at 3916
Northern Avenue. Friesen pointed out he has a driveway next to the boundary and the
question to Petrik was if this was conforming. Petrik said a driveway must meet the 10
foot side yard setbacks. Friesen said this was not possible because it would have to
include the 30 foot setback from the street also. It was noted Pollock also has hardcover
on the side of his garage to store his boat. Klein asked if his storage and hardcover have
been addressed. Friesen said his addition to his garage meets ordinance requirements and
• he never came to the City for his additional hardcover when it was done but it meets
setback requirements on his current application. Hughes asked if Pollock's hardcover has
created water to run off onto the neighbor's property.
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Klein asked if his driveway is conforming or nonconforming. Tyler asked if there is any
• recourse if this was done without going thru proper channels. Friesen said the ordinance
is too vague regarding driveways. Petrik said the objective would be to try to keep paved
surfaces away from property lines. It was noted the driveway was constructed three years
ago and it is hard to go back and have the property owner tear up his driveway. The
Commissioners briefly discussed where things are stored on properties at property lines.
Maloney said this could be discussed further at the next meeting during the beautification
discussion.
Maloney noted Sippel is resigning from the Planning Commission. Hughes noted the
Commissioners with terms expiring in 2006 are to send a letter on intent to be
reappointed.
g) Council Minutes—September 18, 006
It was noted there were revisions.
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Klein asked how much the arbitration with Lakeview Lofts is costing the City and she
requested that figure. Klein said she thought the colors were just fine. Hughes said Frostad,
developer of Lakeview Lofts, wanted to arbitrate the issue is his because the building
owners and association inherit the problem. Mason asked how much the variance for 2401
Black Lake Road cost the City. Petrik stated his fee is more than the fee for the variance
application and Goman also spent time on this request. Mason asked Petrik if he thought
• the garage proposal was acceptable. Petrik said it fit within the context of what is there now.
Mason said it would increase the build up in the area.
Hughes stated at the last Council meeting, it is fair to say the Council wants to involve the
Planning Commission more. He said there are issues on the condition of Wilkes Park. He
pointed out there are some timbers in worse shape in Thor Thompson Park. Hughes added
the Planning Commission should review the safety issues and look at what need to be done
from a budget standpoint.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Tyler to adjourn the meeting at 9:19 p.m. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
SARAH FRIESEN
ADMINISTRATOR/CLERK/TREASURER
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SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
November 8, 2006
7:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—October 11, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a. Sign Permit Application, The Mist Lofts
Jon Muscoplat, Imaginality
• b. "Christmas in May"Presentation
Mary Monteith, City of Chaska
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Note: November Calendar addition, Moratorium Meeting 11-27-06, 7-9 p.m.
b) December Calendar
c) Channel 8 & 20 Schedules: see http://www.Imcc-tv.org
d) Council Meeting Minutes—October 16, 2006
e)Building and Sign Report, October
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
• SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 8,2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Maloney called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Klein, Mason, Maloney, Tyler and Ex-Officio Hughes were present and Mork
Bredeson was excused. Staff present: Administrator Friesen, Office Assistant Lewin, and
Recorder Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Anderson and seconded by Mason to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
• 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —October 11, 2006
Motion by Anderson and seconded by Mason to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission Meeting October 11, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application, The Mist Lofts
Jon Muscoplat, Imaginality
Present: Jon Muscoplat and another rep from Imaginality. Maloney stated the sign
permit application seems to be complete and verified there were no concerns from the
staff. Muscoplat said his company designs, manufactures and installs signs. He said
their application is for three signs. They want to start identifying the Mist property
before people get to it. One sign is next to the planter box and runs perpendicular to
Shoreline Drive. The illumination is up to the sign and the sign replicates the building.
The second sign is on the planter wall and the third sign is a wall sign at the entrance on
Sunset Drive and it is also lit with an internal subtle light.
Tyler verified the wall sign can be read from the north and south. It is mounted
projecting out from the wall two and a half feet with clearance to walk under it. Mason
verified the materials are aluminum. Muscoplat said they will match the building.
Mason verified two are illuminated and one is not illuminated. Hughes asked how high
• the sign is at the corner entrance. He was told seven feet and it is in the planter box next
to the building. Mason said the application states two signs are not illuminated and one
is. He verified this is incorrect. Muscoplat said the letters are illuminated, they will be
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black during the day and white at night. The planter sign will have landscape lighting
• and the one on the wall is not illuminated and hopefully landscape lighting will light it
up. The signs are understated but recognizable.
Friesen asked the reason the one is so large in the planter box. The rep said they had to
change it because there were too many utilities at the original location and they had to
move it closer to the corner but it is scaled proportionate for the location. Hughes asked
when they would install the signs. Muscoplat said there is a four week lead time after
approval. Tyler referred to the wall sign and the statement made earlier that hopefully
there would be landscaping light. He asked if this is a preliminary design and was told
no. Maloney felt the sign in the planter would not interfere with traffic. Klein asked if
the planter sign replaces the tree and was told, "Yes for now".
Tyler verified the sign at the corner was seven feet tall and asked how wide it is. He was
told it is offset at four feet and the footprint is approximately six feet. Klein verified it is
11" thick. Tyler asked if the diagrams are intended to be to scale and was told yes. He
said it looks big. The rep said they will cut it down a foot. Klein said it should be
dropped two feet. Muscoplat pointed out the top of sign is above the railing and the
railing should not take precedence over the sign. He said they can lower it so the height
is equal to the railing.
Hughes pointed out the Council discussed at length the landscape plan for the Mist and
they do not wish to see the tree removed. Maloney asked if there were other options to
• consider with the corner sign. Muscoplat said they need a surface for the letters but not a
lot of area. Maloney also expressed concern with removing the tree. Muscoplat said that
tree will grow and go above the sign. He asked if putting back a taller tree would work.
Mason said he would like to retain rather than take away. Muscoplat said they could
lower the sign by a foot or two but they need the height of the letters for visibility when
driving by.
Tyler asked if they need that sign. The rep said they need to identify the property and
that is important when trying to get to a destination. Maloney asked if there would be
room for additional business names on that sign. The rep said there would not because
shadows get created with additional signs. Anderson asked the potential for retail units in
that location. Muscoplat said there is room for three or four businesses. Anderson asked
where those signs would go. Muscoplat said they would go on the building. Hughes
noted the character of the tree is more of a bush tree and it probably would not grow tall.
He added it is in the ordinance that a sign cannot be placed in an easement. He asked
how far that easement goes into that location. It was noted there is a water easement on
the corner.
Muscoplat said he was told by the county there was a zero setback and the location of the
sign was out of the easement. He said they would work thru landscaping and the signage
for a balance and reposition the sign lower than the tree. Maloney asked the color of the
illumination and was told it would match the building. Tyler said he realized signage is
• important, we are trying to keep it environmental friendly along Shoreline Drive, the
condos stand out and it is known they are there, and he does not see a sign on the corner
as necessary.
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• Klein pointed out Lakeview Lofts does not have signage. Reinhardt pointed out the
`4100' address is used twice, Spring Street and Shoreline Drive. Muscoplat said they
have plans for placing the address on entries but it is important to have identification on
the corner. Friesen asked if they are doing any signage on the north building and was
told no. Muscoplat said there was no place to put a sign because of utilities. Mason said
it is unfortunate signage was not put into the plans during the development stage to see
how it would tie in. Anderson asked if a motion would be for all of the signs or
individually. Friesen said individually because of the landscaping issue and the Council
should have a say in the matter.
Motion by Mason and seconded by Klein to approve the hanging wall sign on Sunset
Drive for the Mist Lofts. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to approve the sign on the south facing
wall of the south building on Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to have the Council review the illuminated
sign on the corner in the planter. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Muscoplat will provide new modified drawings for the Council meeting November 201h
Hughes recommended the new drawings have as much detail as possible. Muscoplat said
• he will do views with options and he verified the other two signs are approved.
b. "Christmas in May' Presentation
Present: Mary Monteith, City of Chaska, Bob Roepke
Monteith explained"Christmas in May" is a non profit group that works with Sr. citizens,
disabled, low to moderate income people that need assistance with home repairs, yard
work, etc. She said it is completely a volunteer organization. They solicit funds from
other organizations in the community; have 250 volunteers and average doing work for
six to seven homes a year in Chaska. She further explained the structure of the
organization and their game plan. Monteith stated she works for the HRA and with home
owners that do not have more than $25,000 in assets.
Maloney asked how long Chaska has been doing this and was told this was their IOtn
year. Roepke said they saw this program in Shakopee first and the City of Chaska
wanted a sense of community feel and this program defines a caring community. He said
it is a "feel good" project and has really expanded from the first year. Roepke stated they
consistently raise about $20,000 and this program has been established as a community
oriented program; it runs itself and they can afford the insurance for the one day they
work on a house.
Monteith said they typically start working on a different house once a month. They have
a skilled house captain per house to work out the details and the project adds to the
• community effort. She said the fire department also assists with providing the batteries
for smoke detectors. Anderson asked what Monteith is looking for from the Planning
Commission. Monteith said this is just a presentation and she was asked to come and
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present it. Tyler asked how we would do on a project like this in Spring Park. He said
• when 50 people arrived at his daughter's place it was awesome. Roepke said they found
the Rotary in Glencoe to help that city recruit people and people responded.
Monteith said we could start out small to see what works. Klein asked if they do the fund
raising first and then find a house and was told yes. Monteith said they have to review
applications to see if they can handle projects needed to be done in one day. Churches
are a great place to find volunteers and applicants. Maloney verified most supplies are
purchased with funds. Monteith said they get them at cost from a local merchant and
Home Depot. She said they also feed the volunteers all day. She suggested someone
from the City join them on the day in May to see how it works and they are willing to
share information. She was thanked for the presentation.
Tyler asked what they should do with what they just heard. Maloney said to bring ideas
to the next meeting. Lewin said she would obtain sample letters and information, etc.
from Monteith. Klein said we should keep the project in Spring Park.
c. Trailhead Concept Plans—NAC
Present: Dan Petrik,NAC
Petrik said NAC has been directed to create preliminary trailhead concept plans. He said
the ultimate goal is to look at various options and make a recommendation to the Council.
He gave an overview of the sight. He said the corridor is 100 feet wide and standard
throughout the corridor. The bike trail will be on the former railroad bed reserving room
• for transit rail in the future. He said the HCRRA's goal is six parking spaces but they
will give us about 17 spaces. Hughes verified the parking would be on top of Lakeview
Lofts underground parking. Petrik said the sight is flat and the high point is where the
trail crosses Sunset Drive.
Option two contains 46 parking spaces with limited green space. Maloney asked where
100 parking spaces originated. Petrik said that is what the Council requested. Mason
verified this proposal is in the shadow of the Lakeview Lofts building. Tyler verified the
parking lot would be over the Lakeview Lofts underground ramp. Hughes pointed out
Lakeview Lofts is required to keep gravel areas as fire exits.
Option three has 29 parking spaces and more green space. Significant landscaping can be
done and amenities i.e. bathrooms. The parking would go right up to Lakeview Lofts.
The residents on the second floor and above would be looking out beyond the parking lot
and at the green space. One issue to be considered is the access at the same point from
Sunset Drive. Petrik said there is the possibility of an easement for access on the west
end of the property onto Spring Street. Tyler asked if consideration can be given to a line
of trees along the bike trail. Petrik said there is not enough space. He pointed out it
would be hard to plant trees on top of the underground parking ramp at Lakeview Lofts
but planting smaller shrubs is an option.
Reinhardt asked if the county and Three Rivers Park are set on putting the trail exactly on
• the railroad bed. Petrik said they are set on the location to save costs. Mason said the
parking is different from previous discussions. Reinhardt said they do not feel the area
supports a large trailhead. Tyler asked why the Council asked for 100 parking spaces and
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was told they asked for the maximum. Petrik said also for overflow parking for
• businesses in the area. He asked if we want extra parking at what level is the City going
to go to.
Option one has 50 spaces, a single drive aisle and allows for more green space than
option two and less than option three. It has one point of access and a plaza area and a
row of a few trees. Mason asked what is going to be done at the west end by the engine
house and this was not known. Tyler pointed out the residents of Lakeview Lofts will
have public parking to look at. Petrik said the realtors are telling buyers what is adjacent
to the back of the building. Anderson verified there are no ground level units in that
building.
Tyler asked where in the City is there public parking right outside a building like
Lakeview Lofts. He added people from all over are going to be coming to park there.
Maloney asked how to prevent people from the condo projects from parking in that lot.
Petrik said there would have to be stipulations, etc. no long term parking. Mason asked
why parking has to be right at Sunset Drive and not down by the Tonka Venture building
where no one would see it. Petrik said that area is only 100 feet wide instead of 150 feet
wide at Sunset Drive.
Maloney asked who is going to park there except users of the trail or Lakeview Lofts.
Klein asked where the closest trailheads would be. Reinhart said Wayzata and St. Boni,
and a possible park and ride in Mound. Petrik pointed out parking could spur
• commercial activity. Hughes said if a business would go into Lakeview Lofts and there
is no parking available on Spring Street he said he would go around to the back. Petrik
said he did look at a possible pass thru the Lofts building. Roger Swanson, West Arm
Town homes, said when Lakeview Lofts was planned some did not think the parking was
adequate and this looks like the City did not plan enough parking for the Lofts. Tyler
said this does not feel good to him to have public parking adjacent to a residential area.
Friesen asked if the underground easement was to include green space on top. Petrik said
their easement is underground. Mason said it is too bad we cannot landscape next to the
building and screen the cars. Maloney thought option 2 would work the best. Petrik
pointed out the residents of Lakeview Lofts would be looking out over the parking lot
and at the trees not at the parked cars and an attractive parking lot could be created.
Tyler asked if there were doors on the north side of Lakeview Lofts. Petrik said there
were three fire access doors. Maloney stated people would have to walk around the
building to get to Lakeview Lofts. Klein said she would not want to make it a walk thru
because it would look like Lakeview Lofts parking. Hughes pointed out maybe the north
corridor being reserved for future transportation could be used for parking. Mason asked
how receptive the county was to restrooms. Petrik said they are looking at benches but
that is about all because of underground utilities in the area.
Reinhardt said they did not want a trailhead at all and have come a long way. Mason
• asked if this is realistic. Friesen asked if it was possible for the City to recommend
phases. Hughes said, from a safety point of view, to make a "y" at the curb cut and use
some of the space being reserved for the transportation corridor to expand the safety area.
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They briefly discussed one way in and one way out and angle parking. Swanson said
• West Arm town homes have concerns with security and screening at the location. He
said 100 parking spaces are not what they want in that location and they do not want a
park and ride. Lighting is also a concern.
Maloney said we want to make sure the plan we have can accommodate the growth and
option 3 does not accommodate this. Petrik said option 3 is the ls` phase for option 1.
Mason said a right in and right out would create a horseshoe and it forces people to go
around to the same entrance. Hughes said option two with angle parking would dictate
traffic flow. Petrik asked if this is being thought of as a parking lot or an amenity. Klein
said an amenity. Friesen said we have the west end to work with later. Closing
comments were they liked the idea of a phased approach, consensus of parking
immediately adjacent to the building; put screening between the parking and the bike
trail. Mason asked what the county is paying for. Petrik said a 17 space parking lot, trail,
kiosk, and benches.
6. COMMUNICATONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Note: November Calendar addition—Moratorium Meeting 11-27-06, 7-9 p.m.
Klein asked when packets would be available and was told they would be ready three
days before the meeting.
b) December Calendar
c) Channel 8 & 20 Schedules: see http://www.Imcc-tv.org
d) Council Meeting Minutes—October 16, 2006
• e) Building & Sign Report, October
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Klein asked for feedback on the cost of the arbitration with Lakeview Lofts. Friesen said the
cost is coming from Lakeview Lofts escrow account.
Maloney noted the Planning Commission was going to discuss beautification ideas. This
will be on the next agenda.
8. ADJOUORNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Tyler to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 p.m. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
SARAH FRIESEN SHARON CORL
ADMINISTRATOR/CLERK/TREASURER RECORDER
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
AGENDA
• PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 13,2006
7:00 P.M.-CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—Planning Commission November 8, 2006
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) 7:00 p.m. Public Hearing Re: Revised Application for Preliminary Plat by Michael Gorra and
Clearwater Development Group
1. Open Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
b) 7:30 p.m. Public Hearing Re: To consider amendments to the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance for
Section 3, Subd B.6; Subd D.10; Subd E.7; Subd G.6.b.; Subd. G.7.e.(8).
1. Open Public Hearing
2. Discussion&Comments
• 3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
c) 7:45 p.m. Public Hearing Re: To consider amendments to the Spring Park Comprehensive Plan
1. Open Public Hearing
2. Discussion &Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) January Calendar
b) Building and Sign Report,November 2006
c) Channels 8 &20 Schedules
d) Moratorium Workshop Minutes—October 30,2006
e) Council Meeting Minutes—November 20, 2006
f) Moratorium Workshop Minutes—November 27, 2006
g) Special Informational Meeting Minutes—November 28, 2006
h) Joint Special Meeting—November 28, 2006
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Discussion regarding changing future Planning Commission Meeting day to Tuesday from Wednesday.
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 13, 2006
7:00 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Acting Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Klein, Mason, Tyler and Ex-Officio Hughes were present. Mork Bredeson and
Maloney were excused. Staff present: Administrator Friesen, Deputy Clerk Lewin,
Recorder Corl. Others present: Engineer Scott Harri, Attorney Nancy Beck, Planner Dan
Petrik.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Tyler stated the "Christmas in May" topic from last meeting was supposed to be on this
agenda. Lewin said she wrote a letter to Mary Monteith to provide us with more
information and Monteith has not yet responded. It will be on the next agenda.
• Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —Planning Commission November 8, 2006
Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler to approve the Planning Commission
Minutes for November 8, 2006. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) 7:00 p.m. Public Hearing Re: Revised Application for Preliminary Plat by Michael Gorra
and Clearwater Development Group
1. Open Public Hearing
Acting Chair Anderson opened the public hearing at 7:04 p.m.
2. Discussion& Comments
Present: Scott Schmidt, Jason Thomas, Clearwater Development, John Harriss,
Harriss Architect, Joel Cooper, James R. Hill Engineering.
Schmidt stated Mike Gorra is the original applicant and Clearwater has reached an
agreement with Gorra to proceed with the development where K. Hovnanian left off.
He gave a brief history of Clearwater and said it was formed in 2002. Schmidt stated
they wanted to stay as close as possible to K Hovnanian's plan and changes are to the
. inside of the building to accommodate the present market. They hope to close on the
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• property in late February after giving the tenants a 60 day notice. Completion of the
project is a three year time frame being the worst case scenario.
Tyler asked for a list of cities where Clearwater has projects. The list included
Chanhassen, Waconia, Woodbury, Brooklyn Park, Grand Rapids, Norwood Young
America, and Blaine plus several more. Mason requested the name of a project they
could physically view and was told "Wildwood" in Chanhassen on Highway 5 and
also 72 acres on the west side of Waconia will be 110 single family homes, 66 town
homes, senior housing, retail building, a bank, and a quik trip gas station. They also
redeveloped the former grocery store in downtown Waconia and a two story office
building.
Harriss stated they repositioned the project to meet the current market. He pointed
out the current projects in the City have sold the best units and are left with the lesser
units. He said they have cut the density of the proposed project by 35%. The foot
print is intact, all of the utilities are intact and all units will have a view of the lake.
There is a reduction in the number of units. The units will range from 1,700 to 2,500
square feet with two parking spaces per unit. They have also increased the ratio of
surface parking. He said the largest change is to parcel D which used to be building
D on Shoreline Drive. He said it is the most problematic building on the site. They
are going to leave the existing building for tenants to live and hold it open for future
development. Clearwater would come to the City if/when they develop that parcel.
• Clearwater will be using all of the same materials stated previously with K.
Hovnanian. They have added decks and are making larger units. Anderson asked
what a lesser unit was and was told one with no view of the water. Tyler asked if
they are going to keep the current docks. Harriss said the LMCD issues permits for
the docks, the current docks are renewable, there are 50 docks available and they
would be in the same location. Mason asked how they would decide who gets a dock
and was told they would be allocated per building.
Mason verified the buildings would be the same size as the previous project but was
told the interiors are going to be different. Harriss said their approach was to keep in
tack the good things and not reinvent the wheel. They saved a few more trees and the
project has a better feeling on the site. Tyler asked how these would be better units
than other projects in the City. Harriss stated the amenities offered promote a better
life style with two different pools and docks at the site. Schmidt said this site is going
to have a residential feel rather than an urban feel and more pedestrian friendly. They
are over the requirement for green space at 40%versus 75%.
Beth Aschinger, resident, asked if they have taken affordable living space into
consideration in Spring Park. Thomas said they are providing apartment style living
in one building. Aschinger asked the considered price for the units and was told
$700,000 to 1 million dollars. Klein asked how many units are currently on the site
and was told 154 and the plans reflect a reduction to 116 units. Hughes asked when
• all is said and done how many units will the City lose and was told 38 units. He said
he was thinking of the loss of revenue from water and sewer with those units gone.
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• Harriss introduced Joel Cooper with James R. Hill, the new engineer on the project.
Cooper stated he was president of the company which has been in business for 30
years. He pointed out they have done projects all over the metro area.
Petrik stated this application is just like the previous application only better. It is a
superior design and the main issue has to do with the grading at the higher elevation
at the road. He said they are putting in a retaining wall and water will run into a
pond. Island Drive has a 10% slope and NAC is recommending moving a small
parking lot more into the site so it will not be as problematic. He said another issue
has to do with the landscaping. NAC would like to see the landscaping integrate the
existing building and the rest of the project.
A third issue is the lighting along Island Drive. Petrik pointed out the City has a new
lighting ordinance that calls for different light levels and two proposed areas are at
issue. He said a low light level at the lake is being encouraged and some light is
needed for safety along Island Drive. He said the established new standards for
lighting minimums would affect the project and some lights affected fall within the
easement. He added the light levels could be corrected.
Hughes asked how tall the poles are and was told 14 to 15 feet. Hughes pointed out
an incident with Shoreline Place where the poles were too high and the light imposed
on the condos. He asked if these lights are going to interfere with any units. Harriss
• said they would not and each patio will have its own lighting. He said they would
like to keep the lighting levels as low as possible and have no desire to have bright
lighting. Anderson asked the purpose of the lighting. Petrik said the purpose is to
maintain consistent lighting for safety. There are two different types of lighting in
this project. Aschinger asked if there are existing non conforming lights on the site
and was told the ones that are, are not significant that they cannot be corrected. Petrik
noted there is a commercial parking lot next to the property. Hughes asked if
shielding the lights is part of the plan and was told not at this point. Harriss stated
they would do the lights to conform to the ordinance.
Petrik said seven trees are preserved over the previous plan but they do not know the
quality of those trees. Mason said he heard trees have been cut down the past couple
of years. Hughes asked how many trees are proposed to be cut down within the
Shoreland impact area. Petrik noted maybe one would be cut. Harriss said there is
going to be a net gain of trees from the previous proposal. Aschinger asked the
process of removing trees within the 25 foot setback from the lake. Petrik said the
City does not have any procedure. Aschinger pointed out the DNR has a priority and
a procedure. Thomas said this would be discussed later on. It was noted there would
be no beach because of the surrounding wetlands but there would be a lakefront park
area.
Petrik pointed out on the previous plan the right hand turn lane is longer than on this
• plan. He pointed out a list of conditions on page 6 of NAC's report that are still
relevant and yet to be addressed. He particularly referred to the section on Grading
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#3 and #5, the additional lighting on page 7 and the landscaping section is added.
• Hughes verified the City Engineer has reviewed this. Mason inquired about the
improvements to the old building. Schmidt said that is another matter and would
involve only maintenance issues and updating the exterior.
Hughes recommended on page 6, Utilities, the Utility Superintendent should be
included in the review and approval process. He asked what permit shall be obtained
from Hennepin County. It was noted a permit is needed to make Island Drive wider
in the county right-of-way. Mason asked if there was a plan for dust control during
this construction. Thomas said dust abatement would take place during construction.
Mason asked if they would retain the asphalt road until last minute. This was the
plan. Mason asked if the `right in and right out' for construction traffic control would
be used. Tom Goodrum, Schoell & Madson, said this was suggested for construction
traffic control during peak traffic times in the morning and afternoon in the first plan.
During the off peak times it would not take place but either way this process would
not be used unless traffic proves to be a problem.
Aschinger asked the hours and days for construction. Petrik said Monday thru Friday
the hours are 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and Saturday 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. She pointed
out noise travels across the lake. It was noted noise is a separate issue and there is a
noise ordinance. Mason asked if they would be staging at the Marina Center.
Thomas said it is not immediately foreseeable. Klein verified the conditions on page
six and seven are carried over from the first proposed project.
• Mason asked the percentage that this project is likely to proceed and Schmidt said at
least 90%. Hughes asked when the apartment buildings were built. Gorra said in
1969 and the island building were built in 1974 and 1977. Hughes was concerned
there were hazardous materials in the buildings. Mason recommended the developer
keep the City informed of progress with the project.
3. Close Public Hearing
Acting Chair Anderson closed the public hearing at 8:07 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
Motion by Mason and seconded by Tyler to recommend to the Council to
approve the application for preliminary plat submitted by Michael Gorra and
Clearwater Development Group with the conditions and amendments proposed
by NAC with additions discussed on lighting, grading and including the review
and approval of the Utility Superintendent for the utilities. Upon roll call
Anderson, Mason and Tyler voted aye and Klein voted no. Motion declared
carried.
b) 7:30 p.m. Public Hearing Re: To consider amendments to the Spring Park Zoning
Ordinance for Section 3, Subd B.6; Subd D.10; Subd E.7; Subd G.7.e.(8).
• 1. Open Public Hearing
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• Acting Chair Anderson noted this was published in the Laker newspaper and he
opened the public hearing at 8:15 p.m.
2. Discussion& Comments
Subd b.6 (Re: Miscellaneous Zoning Code Issues, NAC 11/29/06, File 175.01 —
05.16
Non-Conforming Buildings, Structures and Uses (Sect. 3, Subd B)
Petrik pointed out the following miscellaneous issues are items that have been
brought to the attention of the City. He referred to his memo dated 11/29/06. He
stated the current language in the ordinance regarding non conforming structures
removed for reasons other than associated with remodeling shall be restored so that
the non conforming portion will conform to the ordinance. He pointed out taking
down a house is a separate issue than a casualty and the proposed change clarifies the
ordinance.
Klein referred to a recent seminar she attended and said a state law has changed that
lawful non conforming structures can be torn down and rebuilt on the same footprint
and no variance is required. Petrik said we are not allowed to make someone
conform and tear down a rental unit as a condition of a building permit. Beck said
this may be a court decision versus state law. Mason recommended this be
investigated. Petrik asked if the Commissioners would like to table this and they all
agreed to table it.
• Aschinger asked what is a condition where the City would require a variance for this.
Petrik pointed out houses in the City are too close to property lines and this would
give property owners the opportunity to have a structure brought into conformance.
Legal staff will research Klein's reference.
Average Shore land Setback (Sect. 3, Subd. E7)
Petrik would like to change the language to suggest that the minimum setback from
the ordinary high water mark (OHWM) is 50 feet except where structures on
adjoining lots exist at a setback of less than 50 feet. If that is the case the setback
may be the average of adjacent structures. He said this would allow more flexibility.
In no case shall the setback be reduced to locate a structure within a Shoreland impact
zone.
The current ordinance language states structures that exist on adjoining lots of a
proposed building, the minimum setbacks from the OHWM for the proposed structure
shall be the average of the setbacks of the adjacent structures. Mark Kinter, resident,
pointed out the structure on the middle lot would have a nicer view and the two on
each side would have a lesser view. Aschinger said the public should have more
input on this amendment. Friesen stated we should see how many lots this would
affect in the City. Different lot scenarios in the City were discussed. Hughes pointed
out the existing ordinance allows a 50 foot setback and another paragraph allows
averaging the setback. He added the averaging came into play when homes closer
than 50 feet were involved. Klein said the amendment sounds like it is clarifying the
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language and make the ordinance more flexible. Mason said we should find out the
• original intent of ordinance.
Klein verified none of this is from moratorium meetings. Petrik said they are items
that have come up repeatedly. Aschinger asked if there are a large number of
situations regarding the averaging. The most recent is on Black Lake Road. Tyler
asked for an explanation of middle lot. Petrik pointed out a structure on a middle lot
would affect the views of each house on either side. Gene Meyer, resident, stated
averaging makes his front lot unbuildable. Aschinger said this ordinance helps
people that are developing the property but not going to live there.
Petrik pointed out an amendment would allow lots to be more conforming. Klein
suggested eliminating averaging and just keep the set back at 50 feet. Kinter asked if
there was an estimate of which houses are more likely to be torn down and rebuilt.
He added we should deal with what exists now and estimate what will happen in the
future. He said the change would have a negative effect on the existing people.
Friesen asked what we want Spring Park to look like in the future. Hughes said
averaging was for nonconforming lots and the 50 foot setback was for conforming
lots. He recommended tabling this until a study is done on the impact of this on the
City. Kinter asked the percentage of properties in the City that have lakeshore and
reviewing this would change the issue.
DrivewaysSect. 3 Subd G.6.b.)
• Hughes read the current ordinance and pointed out the only change is the 50 foot
setback. Bill Turner, resident, asked if side yard setbacks are being eliminated and
what the status would be with pre-existing issues. He described the issue he has with
a neighbor. Petrik said the ordinance was originally intended to prevent driveways
within the OHWM but it did not get written that way. It included the side yard set
back and the language was not clear.
Hughes said it would be impossible to enforce the location of driveways along
property boundary lines because we have an abundance of boundary line driveways in
the City. He said we do not want to see an ordinance written that is unenforceable.
Turner asked why we would approve an ordinance that would make things worse.
Hughes said this is another issue that the average citizen in the City does not know
what is before us. Aschinger said the consistency of the City's approach is from
different directions and asked what we are trying to achieve. Turner said the City
should be going forward and there are other options. Klein said it is not clear if other
options are available. Kinter said it is not the surface of the driveways that is an issue
but what is on the surfaces. Klein said this should be a workshop discussion.
Anderson said we cannot reach a conclusion and this should be tabled.
Parking Lot surfacing (Sect 3 Subd G 7 e.(8)
Petrik said the amendment is to clarify all areas shall have surfacing other than
residential and this could be achieved when redevelopment occurs. He said this
• would create parking lots that are surfaced to look like parking lots. There are a lot of
gravel parking lots in the City and that appearance is a concern of the City.
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Anderson asked how far the City goes on this. Mason said this is an effort to try to
• clean up the City and we not trying to impact the existing businesses but have
something in place when a new business comes in. Anderson asked where this has
not been done. Hughes referred to Marina Car Wash. Anderson asked if this looks
bad. Hughes said we can achieve this in predevelopment agreements but it is the
smaller ones that are difficult to accomplish what we want. He said we should be
able to require more consistent requirements. Tyler pointed out this amendment is
fairly simple; we can get this done and move on. Mason verified this is related to
businesses. Klein said this should have been discussed at the moratorium workshops.
Landscaping Ordinance (Sect. 3, Subd. D 10.)
Petrik said this was included in the moratorium discussions. He said the City
ordinance did not have much clarity and this amendment would add strength and
quality to the landscaping requirements. It is for non residential usage except for a
screening requirement for businesses abutting residential areas, planting strips are
required. He proceeded to review the changes in the landscaping requirements and
pointed out the proposed changes in the NAC memo dated 11/29/06.
The following changes included: required screening preferred over screen fences,
multi-family developments screen parking lots from single family neighborhoods;
establishing a landscaping standard and quantity standard with trees and shrubs in
developments; include language for types of trees and prohibited trees and include
landscaping of stormwater management ponds; minimum setbacks for plantings,
fences and walls; expand landscape design criteria; outlines time frame for landscape
installation; maintenance standards and financial security to ensure proper installation
per approved plans.
Petrik noted the changes are underlined on the pages. He distributed a list of invasive
species of trees and said we should not allow the trees on this list. Petrik referred to
pond management and said when new developments come in, this is clear as to what
plantings go into ponds, etc. and it encourages pond development. Mason asked who
monitors this. Petrik said the City would hold escrow and do inspections
periodically. Anderson asked if this is general information. Petrik said this is part of
the moratorium work list. All of these recommendations are intended to improve the
quality of new development in the City with strength to carry this out. Hughes
verified this will be reviewed by the City Attorney and then approved by the Council.
3. Close Public Hearing
Acting Chair Anderson closed the public hearing 9:34 p.m.
4. Recommendation to Council
Ordinance amending non-conforming buildings, structures and uses
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to table this so legal staff can review
the questions. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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• Ordinance amending required fencing, screening and landscaping
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to recommend to the Council to
approve the ordinance amending required fencing, screening and landscaping
with the addition of the list of prohibited tress and reviewing of the amendment
by the City Attorney. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Ordinance amending the shore land setback requirements
Motion by Klein and seconded by Tyler to table this as discussed which included
review of the percentage of lakeshore property in the City and research the
original intent of the ordinance. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Ordinance amending the placement of roads, driveways and parking area setbacks
Motion by Tyler and seconded by Mason to table this for further review. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
It was noted: the larger impact is the issue of surfaces and keeping space clear and
free; within the ten foot side yard is an issue; a workshop should be held on the three
items tabled; hold a more publicized public hearing. Petrik will have the tabled items
on the next Planning Commission agenda.
• Ordinance amending parking lot surfacing standards
Motion by Tyler and seconded by Klein to recommend to the Council to approve
the ordinance amending parking lot surfacing standards. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
c) 7:45 p.m. Public Hearing Re: To consider amendments to the Spring Park
Comprehensive Plan
1. Open Public Hearing
Acting Chair Anderson opened the public hearing at 9:43 p.m.
2. Discussion & Comments
Motion by Klein and seconded by Mason to table this to the next Planning
Commission meeting. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Tyler pointed out this subject is one that we should try to reach a broader audience,
and it is important to get the word out to the public maybe via the Newsletter. He
asked if this is time sensitive. Hughes said we have to update it next year.
Acting Chair Anderson continue the public hearing to the next Planning Commission
meeting January 10, 2007.
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The following communications were noted:
• a) January Calendar
b) Building & Sign Report,November 2006
Klein asked if Lord Fletcher's Restaurant obtained a sign permit for the banner on their
fence and was told no. She pointed out they do this often and should be told there is a
process for putting up a sign or banner. Klein stated they should be fined the $200 for
not obtaining the permit before putting up the sign.
c) Channels 8 & 20 Schedules
It was noted we could generate public interest if we televised our Planning Commission
meetings. Staff will follow up on this.
d) Moratorium Workshop Minutes—October 30, 2006
e) Council Meeting Minutes—November 20, 2006
f) Moratorium Workshop Minutes—November 27, 2006
g) Special Information Meeting Minutes—November 28, 2006
h) Joint Special Meeting—November 28, 2006
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Discussion regarding changing future Planning Commission Meeting day to Tuesday from
Wednesday
Hughes stated the Planning Commission has met on the second Wednesday night of every
month and that is historically a church night. He said if we look at having more time
between the Planning Commission meeting and Council meeting it would give staff more
time to get materials ready for Council packets. He noted the Council agreed it is up to the
• Planning Commission to change their meeting day. It was noted there are five applicants for
the openings on the Planning Commission.
In another matter, Klein suggested sending a letter to Commissioner Mork Bredeson
regarding her attendance record. Hughes said this came up before the Planning Commission
a year ago and the intent was the Planning Commission was to address this before giving it
to the Council. Hughes suggested directing the Administrator write a letter. Klein said we
should address this matter. Friesen said the Council would be interviewing the applicants in
January. The attendance matter will be discussed at the next meeting Planning Commission
meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein and seconded by Tyler to adjourn the meeting at 9:59 p.m. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
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