2004 - Planning Commission - Agendas & Minutes • CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 14, 2004
7:30 P.M. — CITY HALL
Chair Anderson and Staff have canceled the Planning Commission Meeting
for January 14, 2004 due to lack of items for the agenda. The minutes for
the meeting held on November 12, 2003 will be approved at the next
scheduled meeting and the new Planning Commissioner, Doug Sippel, will
be sworn in at the next scheduled meeting.
The following items were distributed:
1. Council Meeting Minutes December 15, 2003
2. Council Meeting Minutes January 5, 2004
• 3. Budget 2004
4. Letter From Henn. Co. Atty. Re: Notice of Abandonment —
11/25/03 & City's Response— 12/15/03
5. Building & Sign Report— December 2003
6. Appointments 2004
7. Fee Schedule 2004
8. January Calendar
9. Channel 8 Schedule
• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
FEBRUARY 11, 2004
7:30 P.M. — CITY HALL
Chair Anderson and Staff have canceled the Planning Commission Meeting
for February 11, 2004 due to lack of items for the agenda. The minutes for
the meeting held on November 12, 2003 will be approved at the next
scheduled meeting and the new Planning Commissioner, Doug Sippel, will
be sworn in at the next scheduled meeting.
The following items were distributed:
1. Council Meeting Minutes January 20, 2004
2. Council Meeting Minutes February 2, 2004
3. Cost Analysis of Variances — 1/15/04
4. Building & Sign Report — January 2004
5. Council & Planning Commission List 2004
6. February Calendar 2004
7. March Calendar
8. Brochure - Filing for Office in MN 2004
9. Brochure - MN Precinct Caucuses 3/2/04
• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 10, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
OATH OF OFFICE—Doug Sippel
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—November 12, 2003
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
• b) Swings—Thor Thompson Park
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Article on Jeff Hovelsrud (Spring Park Resident&Former Planning
Commissioner)
b) Zoning Issues(From City Attorney)—8/30/99
c) Council Minutes—3/l/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
MARCH 10, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Klein, Hughes, Sippel and ex-officio Stone were present and Mork
Bredeson,Nelson and Aschinger were excused. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Hughes seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—November 12, 2003
Motion by Klein seconded by Hughes to approve the minutes with
typographical errors noted. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
Anderson recommended postponing this election until there are more than four
Commissioners present.
Motion by Klein seconded by Hughes to table the election of Chair and
Acting Chair until there are more Commissioners present. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Swings—Thor Thompson Park
The Planning Commissioners were informed the swings at Thor Thompson Park
are not OSHA approved and need to be replaced. They have already been ordered
• to take advantage of 2003 pricing but a color has to be chosen.
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Motion by Klein seconded by Sippel to approve blue for the color of the posts
for the swings. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Article on Jeff Hovelsrud (Spring Park Resident & Former Planning
Commissioner)
b) Zoning Issues (From City Attorney)—8/30/99
The Commissioners will review this and refer it to the next meeting for
discussion. Hughes referred to the "60 Day Rule" and was told it is in the
presentation.
Klein inquired if there was a seminar scheduled for new Commissioners. Hughes
and Sippel expressed interest. The Deputy Clerk will look into the matter.
c) Council Minutes—3/l/04
Hughes referred to page 4 item 4 (Date for Annual MS4 Permit Public Meeting)
and asked what this is. Stone said it is related to storm water and the City's Storm
Water Plan. She added it is more bureaucracy and a Federal mandate and we will
• have to document what the City is doing towards cleaning up storm water run off.
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Hughes asked the status of the report from the Planner regarding outdoor storage.
Stone said she was first told it needs fine-tuning. The Administrator reported today
that is has been put on the "back burner" because of proposed new developments in
the City that has taken priority of the Planner's time.
The Deputy Clerk reported on the proposed building projects, residential and
commercial, in the City. She said the developer for the proposed Spring Street
redevelopment will make a presentation at the Council Meeting March 15 `.
Klein stated she was having trouble with BFI not picking up her garbage for five
weeks. She obtained information of other licensed haulers in the City.
Hughes said he was very appreciative of the Administrator for calling this meeting to
update the Commissioners on proposed building activities in the City especially
when there was nothing for an agenda.
Anderson asked what happened to our banners and what are we getting from the
merchants for advertising in our City. He said he does not think the new banners are
doing anything for the community or the individual businesses. He asked who puts
• them up and why are we allowing this public use for a private business's gain.
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• Hughes agreed he thought taxpayer's money was being used for private enterprise.
Stone said the City puts them up because we would have spent the money putting our
own banners up. Anderson said the businesses should pay for the installation and
this should be looked into. Klein said she would like to see the City's banner's back
UP.
Hughes asked if the City would be getting any more planters. He was told Norling
would be presenting an annual proposal to the Council at a future Council Meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Hughes seconded by Klein to adjourn the meeting at 8:23 p.m. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 14, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—March 10, 2004
5. PETITIONS, REQUESTS &APPLICATIONS
a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
b) Sign Permit Application—H H Meats, Deli & Catering, 4125 Sunset Drive
c) Sign Permit Application—JetBoyz, 4534 Shoreline Drive
• d) Discussion Re: "Zoning Issues"and Planning Commission Info
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—3/15/04
b) Memo Re: SWPPP Meeting 4/19/04
c) Spring Park Natural Resource Inventory
d) April Calendar
e) Channel 8 Schedule
f) LMCC Newsletter—Winter 2004
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 14,2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Hughes, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone were present, Nelson
was excused and Klein was absent. Mork Bredeson arrived after the roll was taken.
Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Hughes seconded by Aschinger to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—March 10, 2004
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Sippel to approval the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting March 10, 2004.
5. PETITIONS, REQUESTS &APPLICATIONS
a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
It was agreed to do this later in the meeting because two more Commissioners
would be in attendance.
b) Sign Permit Application—H H Meats, Deli & Catering, 4125 Sunset
The Deputy Clerk stated the sign was in compliance with the ordinance and the
application is in order.
Motion by Hughes seconded by Aschinger to approve the sign permit
application for H H Meats, Deli & Catering, 4125 Sunset Drive. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
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• c) Sign Permit Application—JetBoyz,4534 Shoreline Drive
Ray Serna, owner of the business was present. He said the business is located in
the former Dock and Lift building. He stated he would be doing repairs on
personal watercraft and on snowmobiles in the winter.
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Hughes to approve the sign permit
application for JetBoyz, 4534 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
d) Discussion Re: "Zoning Issues"and Planning Commission Info
This information is provided to new Planning Commissioners and the current
Commissioners wanted to review and discuss the information for educational
purposes. Aschinger stated she was not familiar with the formal procedures of
what the Planning Commission does nor how to discuss and what to focus on for
variance requests, etc. She asked to review the procedures and discuss what
would make the Planning Commission more effective as a whole.
Anderson referred to Page 1, I.A.4. and thought the statement should be removed.
It was pointed out this was required because it was in the state statute (which was
quoted at the top of the page). Hughes said he was familiar with the variance
process because he went through it. He feels there is a need for an orientation by
• someone that can address the Comprehensive Plan of the City with the Planning
Commission. He said the Comprehensive Plan is one item the Planning
Commission needs to review. The Deputy Clerk will provide copies to the
Commissioners.
Aschinger pointed out the Planning Commission and Council are not in sync
when it comes to approving and denying variance applications. Hughes stated the
Council has more history. Stone added they have to have more accountability
also. Hughes referred to items in the ordinance book and think some things are at
odds with the Comp Plan, variances being one.
Anderson said one reason the Council overrules the Planning Commission on
variances is because the Planning Commission does not do their homework. He
said they should do their studying and know as much or more than the Council
and the Commission can be as strong as they want it to be.
Hughes said part of their downfall is that they do not meet every month(if there is
nothing for an agenda). He recommended they meet every month and if there is
nothing for an agenda they should use the time for discussion and education. He
suggested each Commissioner make a list of what they would like to discuss.
Hughes asked what role the Planning Commission will have in the upcoming
• proposed building projects. He said he hopes they will receive direction from the
Council. Anderson agreed they have to educate themselves. Aschinger said if
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• they approve a variance and the Council denies it, they are not preparing the
resident. Sippel said if the Council decision is different from the Planning
Commission's decision we need to know the basis of their decision so we know
what we should be looking at. Aschinger stated there needs to be more
understanding to better serve the public.
Anderson said there is an interesting comparison between the Planning
Commissions in Mound and Spring Park. He said the decision of the Mound
Planning Commission is almost the final decision because they do their
homework. Aschinger said it was a good point that we do not meet every month
because we do not have continuity and that could be one reason. Hughes
suggested next month each Commissioner come with a list because we need more
information on what would make us more effective.
Hughes wanted to know what steps (all the hoops) a new construction project (i.e.
Spring Street) goes through. It was suggested they go to other cities meetings and
observe. It was noted other cities have their planner and attorney attend meetings
regularly, a luxury Spring Park does not have. The Commissioners will start to
receive the Administrative Committee Minutes and will be notified if there are
any seminars for "planning" available. Hughes asked if there was a guideline
used by the Planner for the findings of fact.
• Motion by Hughes seconded by Aschinger to propose the Planning
Commission meet every month and if there is nothing for an agenda an item
will be chosen by the Chair and/or Staff that would help to educate the
Commissioners on protocol and what they should do/know to be more
prepared to make better decisions and better serve the public. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes—3/15/04
Stone referred to the discussion on the banners in the Planning Commission
Minutes of 3/10/04. She read the letter from the City to Signage stating the
Council decided the City would no longer be using Signage's banners on
Shoreline Drive
b) Memo Re: SWPPP Meeting 4/19/04
Stone reported a person would be coming in to lead the public hearing. She noted
the public hearing and program is a federal mandate and the City will be required
to submit a written report every year. She said the program is to help minimize
the run off to the lake and a lot of the measures taken to accomplish this is in the
City's Stormwater Management Plan. Stone added this plan would apply to new
construction projects also.
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• Hughes pointed out we sweep the streets to minimize pollutants going into the
lake. Stone said we now are required to document what we do to clean up the run
off going into the lake.
c) Spring Park Natural Resource Inventory
d) April Calendar
e) Channel 8 Schedule
f) LMCC Newsletter—Winter 2004
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Hughes asked if information in the Planning Commission packets could be sent out
earlier than the Friday before a meeting. He was told some material for applications
requiring a public hearing could but other information usually is not available ahead
of time.
Anderson asked the status on Sunset Drive. Stone said we are waiting for
information to come back to the City.
5. a) Elect Chair&Acting Chair
Anderson nominated Hughes. Mork Bredeson nominated Anderson. Anderson
called for nominations three times and having none closed the nominations. At
that time he then refused to accept the nomination for himself. All were in favor
of approving Hughes as the Chair.
• Anderson called for nominations for Acting Chair. Mork Bredeson nominated
Anderson. All were in favor of approving Anderson for Acting Chair.
The discussion from earlier in the meeting was briefly reviewed for Mork
Bredeson and it was explained that at the next meeting each Commissioner would
come up with a list as what they want to know more about regarding the role of a
Planning Commissioner.
Mork Bredeson suggested going over the list of past variances and review what
the Council has approved and denied. The Deputy Clerk will provide the list of
variance applications and decisions. Mork Bredeson said they should review this
list to see if they are providing the right leadership, etc. She added that at one
point in time in the past the Planning Commission requested the Council to
provide a three-sentence evaluation when their decision on a variance differed
from the Planning Commissions. She said each board provides leadership for the
other. Sippel said we could read the minutes, which reflects the discussion but
not necessarily the real basis for the Council's decision. He said it would be
helpful to both boards if they know why the Council does not vote the same way
then the Planning Commission knows what they did not do.
The Spring Street proposal was briefly discussed. Mork Bredeson said that is an
• ugly area and the proposal is an opportunity to clean it up and something better
will be a result. The benefit of having residential above commercial was briefly
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discussed. Mork Bredeson commented on the high-density situation and said we
also have to think of aesthetics. She added we have to be cautious and if the
developments are done well it will be a big boost for our City. The Planning
Commission briefly discussed the importance of local businesses surviving for a
sense of community.
8. ADJOUORNMENT
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Aschinger to adjourn the meeting at
8:47 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CORL
Planning Commission—4/14/04
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 12, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—April 14, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Age Re: Banners
b) Logo on New Water Tower
• 6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—4/5/04
b) Board of Review Minutes—4/12/04
c) Council Minutes—4/19/04
d) Administrative Committee Minutes—4/7/04
e) Administrative Committee Minutes— 5/5/04
f) Council Minutes—5/3/04
g) Census 2002 Fact Sheet
h) Met Council Housing Profile
i) May Calendar
j) Channel 8 Schedule
k) List of Variances— 1992 to Present
1) Building& Sign Report-April
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
MAY 12, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Klein, Hughes and Ex-Officio Stone were present and Nelson, Aschinger
and Sippel were excused and Mork Bredeson was absent. Staff present: Deputy
Clerk Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—April 14, 2004
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission Meeting April 14, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Age Re: Banners
Alisa Rashid and Chris Butler from Sign Age were present. Hughes stated the
banner issue was given to the Planning Commission by the Council to review and
make a recommendation back to the Council. Hughes distributed an outline to
follow for the discussion. Rashid stated her letter summarizes the situation with
the banners. She added she has researched a few points since the recent Council
Meeting. She said the City of Mound is continuing the banner program since they
wrote the letter saying they were discontinuing it, and Sign Age has picked up all
the banners from the cities and reinforced the stitching on them. Rashid noted the
summer banners did not have one tear, pointing out the elements are different in
the winter than in the summer.
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• Klein asked if other communities experience this situation with their banners.
Rashid said Wayzata and Chaska do have vinyl banners and do not have any
problems with them. She said she does Chaska's banners. Anderson noted our
banners are the largest. Rashid said Mound and Spring Park have big banners and
she thinks size is part of the problem. Hughes asked for a comparison in the size.
Rashid said Navarre's banners are 2' x 6' and Spring Park and Mounds are 30"
by 84".
Anderson stated it was nice to have the businesses participating in the program.
He said his concern is the verbal agreement that this is a 3-year program. Butler
said Bill Weeks (Administrator) recommended they approach the Council with
the idea and Weeks stated he did not recall the "three year commitment"
statement from Sign Age. Rashid said Weeks gave Sign Age the approval to
proceed with the program. Anderson verified Sign Age has a verbal agreement
with the businesses and the price of the banner was based on a three-year
program.
Anderson said he objects to the City's cost of putting up and taking down the
banners. Stone said that cost was not incurred because we were swapping out our
banners for Sign Age's banners. Anderson said the businesses in our community
are using the taxpayer's money to cover the extra expenses. Stone stated it was
the Council's concern that the City incurs no extra cost. Hughes said it should be
• stated that any other banner program the City enters into should not cost any
additional money to the taxpayers.
Klein asked what the added costs are for the Sign Age banners. Rashid said the
banners did not cost the City anything. Hughes pointed out Goman (Utility
Superintendent) was asked to research the added costs and question if we should
wait with the recommendation until we know the costs. He said we do not want
to go into a banner program that will cost any significant money or incur added
expense to the City.
Rashid said Sign Age has taken care of damaged banners. Hughes noted the City
might behave liability with Sign Age repairing banners themselves in the City.
Anderson asked who approved the design on the banners. Butler said the
Administrators of each City gave their approval. He said it is Sign Age's
intention to come to the cities in the spring with new designs. Hughes asked,
looking at the banner program in total, what kind of requirements are there for
new businesses and where does our sign ordinance come into play with the
businesses name on the banners. He also asked if standards for material and
construction should be in place. Anderson said we would want the best material
to eliminate repair costs. He added these costs should be passed on to the
businesses.
• Hughes asked Rashid what the ideal agreement would be. Rashid said first of all
an agreement would have to be in place and include a time frame, program
outline, signatures, city and council in agreement, maintenance program. Klein
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• said it seems like Sign Age sold the banners to the businesses first and then to the
City. Butler said the banners were sold to Navarre first and then they had
approval from Weeks. He said they understood Sign Age would do the
maintenance and the City would be responsible for changing them out. Butler
stated that maybe the banners should not be up during certain times in the spring
and winter when there are winds.
Hughes asked if the banners added or subtracted from the City's beautification
program. Klein said she would like to poll the Council and Planning Commission
with that question. Anderson said he thought they added to the beautification of
the City. Rashid suggested adding $30 to the cost of the next round of banners to
help with the cost of maintenance. Hughes said the banner program needs more
formal structure and asked what responsibility does the City have to the
businesses regarding the banners. Klein said the sign ordinance should be
checked and the obligation to the businesses is Sign Age's responsibility.
Anderson said a standard of criteria is needed. Klein wanted to know why
Mound reversed their opinion.
Anderson said banners are great and the design is important, but he would like to
know where each city starts and ends. Rashid said the background color for each
city could be changed and this would define each city. Klein said she was not in
favor of banners because they detract from the view of the lake. Hughes said he
• noticed the welcome signs more than the banners.
Hughes stated they all seem to agree that individuality, changes, corrections and
documentation are needed for the banner program. Anderson requested an
agreement written by Sign Age. Hughes asked each Commissioner to sum up
what they would recommend to the Council. This was formulated into the
following motion and Hughes requested that each name making the
recommendation be included:
Motion by Hughes seconded by Klein that the following recommendations be
considered by the Council regarding the banner program with Sign Age:
Anderson would like an agreement, establish a color different from Mound
and Navarre, and the City approve the design; Klein would like to see the
added costs, check into the City's liability when Sign Age does repairs to the
banners, a signed contract, feels some obligation to do a third year; Hughes
recommended the banner program have an interim agreement to formalize
what has been done so far, any future program include have standards for
materials and maintenance, review the sign ordinance relating to this, review
the effect the banners have on the overall beautification. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
In discussion it was suggested that Sign Age recommend when the banners should
• go up and come down. Hughes said an interim agreement is critical. He said
Sign Age should be proactive instead of reactive in this matter. Rashid said she
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. had no choice because she was not aware of problems before the letter was
received from the City.
b) Logo on New Water Tower
Hughes stated that if we keep the smiley face (exhibit 1) it should be the same
exact one that is currently on the tower. Anderson said he was in favor of the
third choice. Klein asked what colors will be used and how often it would have to
be redone. It was determined it would not have to be redone often. Stone pointed
out the engineer said darker colors will fade and the more colors and complexity
involved will increase the cost.
Hughes said his concern is we are designing something but do not know the exact
proportion and how it would exactly look and it is difficult to make a decision
because of this. He said he prefers the third exhibit that contains the City's logo
and Klein agreed.
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to recommend to the Council to
approve the third exhibit, the City's logo (SP with setting sun, trees, bird and
wavy line underneath), for the new water tower. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted and some comments were made:
• a) Council Minutes—4/5/04
Hughes noted with the proposed new developments we should direct some
beautification efforts to the developers.
b) Board of Review Minutes—4/12/04
c) Council Minutes—4/19/04
d) Administrative Committee Minutes—4/7/04
e) Administrative Committee Minutes—5/5/04
f) Council Minutes 5/3/04
Hughes commented he is concerned with the communication and decision process
between businesses and the City and the Council. He stated there does not seem
to be a clear process.
g) Census 2002 Fact Sheet
Note comment below.
h) Met Council Housing Profile
Hughes requested this and the previous item be reviewed at the next Planning
Commission Meeting.
i) May Calendar
j) Channel 8 Schedule
k) List of Variances— 1992 to Present
1) Building & Sign Report—April
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7. MISCELLANEOUS
It was noted that Hughes and Anderson would be attending a seminar (Your Role as
a Planning Commissioner) on June 2nd from 8:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. in St. Paul.
The Deputy Clerk reported the status of the Sunset Drive proposal. She said costs
have been received from Mediacom, Quest, and Xcel and the City is waiting for
costs from Xcel for underground service to individual residents. Klein verified there
would be a public meeting regarding Sunset Drive before anything is done.
Hughes said he has read the City's Comp Plan and pointed out the Planning
Commission needs to read it to understand how it affects any future decisions they
have to make.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein seconded by Hughes to adjourn the meeting at 8:47 p.m. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
Planning Commission—5/12/04
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 9, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - May 12, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Sr. Community Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive
b) Discussion of Sign Ordinance (Please review before the meeting Article IV Page
CD10:6)
c) Report on Seminar Re: Planning Commissioner Role by Hughes & Anderson
• d) Design of Proposed Park Area on Warren Avenue - Kathy Olson, former Planning
Commissioner
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—May 17, 2004
b) Channel 8 Schedule June
c) June Calendar
d) Building& Sign Report May 2004
e) Letter from Administrator to Commissioners—6/4/04
f) NAC
1. Spring Street Redevelopment Schedule of Procedures—6/1/04
2. Project Review Schedule—6/2/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 9, 2003
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Nelson, Klein, Hughes, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone were
present and Mork Bredeson was absent. Staff present: Administrator Weeks.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—May 12, 2004
Motion by Klein seconded by Nelson to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission Meeting May 12, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Sr. Community Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive
Sippel asked what role the Planning Commission should have on sign permit
applications already meeting the sign ordinance. He asked if it merely delays the
applicant. This will be discussed later in the agenda.
Motion by Anderson seconded by Aschinger to approve the sign permit
application for Sr. Community Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
c) Report on Seminar Re: Planning Commissioner Role from Hughes &Anderson
Hughes and Anderson reviewed, for the Planning Commission, the recent half-
day seminar they attended. They were very impressed and satisfied overall, and
• thought it was yM worthwhile. They encouraged the City to continue to budget
for this type of training and for staff to continue to suggest to Planning
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• Commission and Council Members opportunities like this. Hughes pointed out
several suggestions their teacher, John Sharlow, had suggested regarding purpose
statements, introductions, etc. at public hearings, restrictions that can be imposed
on variance approvals, etc. Weeks indicated we are fortunate to have the LMC
and the Government Training Service relatively close for this type of training
opportunity and that we could customize a training session in our area if there
would be enough participants.
d) Design of Proposed Park Area on Warren Avenue — Kathy Olson, former
Planning Commissioner
In discussion of Kathy Olson's submitted design for a proposed park area on
Warren Avenue, the Planning Commission concluded that the City has existing,
and potentially existing projects with higher priority. They advised that the City
should not take on new projects without concluding others. For example, future
plans for Sunset Drive improvements, any updates or improvements at existing
parks, potential new trail enhancements (coincidently next to this location),
possible landscaping or other City improvements surrounding the two new
redevelopments. Planning Commission agreed that this area could look better
(especially where Warren meets the rail crossing) but doubted that the City needs
another new park at this time. All conveyed their appreciation for Kathy's efforts
and asked staff to notify her accordingly.
• b) Discussion of Sign Ordinance
In further review of the Sign Ordinance, sign applications and banners, the
Planning Commission questioned the technical compliance of Sign Age Banners
(with private business advertising) on public light poles and on public right-of-
way. After this current banner cycle is over, they would like to be involved
before another banner cycle is proposed. Planning Commission concerns include
liability, cost, quantity and clutter. Hughes indicated that the Council, on Monday
night, asked Goman to keep track of actual costs for installation, removal of all
banners separating our own banners from Sign Age banners.
In further discussion of standard sign permit applications, it was not clear why the
Planning Commission receives all applications and if the application meets City
criteria if could not be denied anyway. The Planning Commission is wondering
why the Council set it up this way, and in order not to delay a sign applicant to the
next month, staff could approve all applications that clearly meet City criteria.
Hughes asked Sippel to amend the motion to include:
Motion by Sippel seconded by Nelson that the Planning Commission
recommend to the Council only sign applications not meeting the exact
existing ordinance be presented to the Planning Commission for approval.
All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
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• a) Council Minutes—May 17, 2004
b) Channel 8 Schedule June
c) June Calendar
d) Building & Sign Report May 2004
e) Letter from Administrator to Commissioners—6/4/04
f) NAC
1. Spring Street Redevelopment Schedule of Procedures—6/l/04
2. Project Review Schedule—6/2/04
Weeks gave an update on the Spring Street project to the Planning
Commission. Especially noted was the upcoming schedule per the NAC
memo dated 6/2/04. If the developer stays on schedule as indicated, the
Planning Commission would be holding the public hearing on July 14, 2004.
The Council would be relying on the minutes and recommendations from the
Planning Commission for their subsequent meeting (probably August 2,
2004). During the public hearing it is important to hear, clarify and record all
concerns and comments of the public and the commissioners regarding any
aspect of the project or the procedures. Staff will try to get all necessary
materials to the Planning Commission as far in advance as possible. Staff will
also notify Commissioners is any pertinent deadlines are missed or meetings
are delayed.
• 7. MISCELLANEOUS —None
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 p.m.
All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
ILLIAM D. WEEKS
ADMINISTRATOR/CLERK/TREASURER
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 14, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—June 9, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Notice of Postponement of Public Hearing
b) Discussion of CUP &Variance Scenarios
1. NAC 6/24/04
• 6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—6/7/04
b) Council Minutes—6/21/04
c) Special Meeting—6/24/04
d) Building & Sign Report June
e) July Calendar
f) August Calendar
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 14, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Nelson, Klein, Hughes, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone
were present. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl. Aschinger arrived after the roll was
taken
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Anderson seconded by Mork Bredeson to adopt the agenda. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —June 9, 2004
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to approve the minutes for Planning
Commission June 9, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Notice of Postponement of Public Hearing
Hughes read the notice of postponement of the public hearing for the requests
pertaining to "Lakeview Lofts"to be located on Spring Street. The public hearing
is postponed until further notice.
b) Discussion of CUP &Variance Scenarios
1. NAC 6/24/04
The worksheet being used for discussion are the variance and CUP requests for
"Lakeview Lofts" that were on the postponed public hearing. Chair Hughes
stated this is a good opportunity to review CUP's as they relate to the zoning
ordinance, i.e. height, lot coverage, setback requirements and parking. (Todd
Frostad, developer for Spring Street, was present.)
The following are the requests/scenarios used for discussion:
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• 1. Conditional use permit for residential/non residential use within one principal
structure per Section 1, Subd. D.1 of the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance.
(Proposal is for 7,354 square feet of commercial use and 39 condominiums.)
Hughes noted a CUP goes with the property once approved by the City Council
after it is filed with the county. He pointed out the existing property uses on
Spring Street are grandfathered in. Nelson said she had no problem with
residential and nonresidential use within one structure, but she is concerned with
the density of the project.
2. Conditional use permit for a building greater than three stories or 40 feet per
Section 15, Subd. E.3 of the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance. (Proposal is for a
four-story 57-foot high building.)
Hughes said this proposal is for more than three stories and refers to density.
Aschinger asked if the DNR has responded to the proposal. Frostad said not in
writing but they have stated they have do not have an issue with the proposal
because it is not near the water. Mork Bredeson pointed out there was an issue
when the Yacht Club was built regarding it blocking some view for Edgewater
Apartments.
Aschinger asked if a formula, per City Ordinance, was used to determine the
• number of units for the property. Frostad said there was and added it is not
economically feasible to build without the proposed height. He said a 3-story
project would not be an economically feasible project. Nelson questioned the
traffic that would be added to the area. Klein referred to the comment made by
the Planner that the traffic was acceptable. She said she did not understand that
this would not be a problem. Aschinger said it probably meant there is a
sufficient number of streets to handle the capacity. Nelson said her concern is
adding approximately 80 more cars to that area. She referred to the Sunset Drive
project and the traffic was a concern to the residents. Hughes said it would be
interesting to know what the current traffic count is for the current businesses and
what would be created by new businesses.
Hughes said a checklist is needed for a project like this. He was told one was
made at a previous meeting with the developer, City Attorney, City Planner, staff
and Council. Anderson asked if this project has already been approved and was
told no. Hughes explained that at a public hearing hardships will have to be
discussed. Anderson said he does not think height is an issue and feels it adds a
positive image to Spring Park. Hughes asked which outside government agency
has to approve the height and was told it is the MN DNR.
3. Conditional use permit to allow lot coverage in excess of 75 percent per
Section 15, Subd. EA.0 of the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance. (Proposal is for
• 94% lot coverage.)
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• Hughes pointed out the MC" has to address the stormwater issue. Frostad said
the DNR, MC" and engineers will address this and state if they accept or do
not accept the percentage requested.
Aschinger said some residents are concerned with the TIF financing and how it
affects the project. Frostad said Presbyterian Homes is the only other property in
the City that has used TIF funds. He explained it is a financial comp for the
property and has to meet certain conditions such as blight, etc to qualify for TIF
financing. He stated that also considered is the cost of the land, condition of the
building and cost impact to the City with new use of the property. He said it will
put more money in the City coffers and the use of the funds has to be paid back by
the developer. Nelson asked Frostad what would happen if he goes bankrupt.
Frostad said it is a "pay as you go" and he does not get the money up front and it
is not coming out of City funds. He said the money comes from the half of the
property taxes from the project. Hughes said he would like to know more about
TIF as a resident. Frostad said Springsted, the firm the City uses, would
determine if using TIF is right for the City.
Aschinger noted the hardcover is contingent on the results of the reports from
other entities. She said it is a concern of hers and it needs to be looked at closely.
Frostad said the ground above the underground garage is considered hardcover.
Hughes asked the dimensions of the footprint of the building. Frostad said it is
• 17,000 square feet, he is leasing 25,000 square feet from the county and not all of
that is impervious surface. He pointed out there will be landscaping on top of the
underground parking and because of that it will not look like 94% impervious
surface.
Aschinger inquired about soil contaminated. Frostad said he has done Phase I and
will have state certified excavators removing the soil where there are two
underground tanks and all soil will go to a disposal sight. Sippel asked if there is
a plan for a loading area for commercial in the back of the building. Frostad said
there will be a 12' x 50' space on site for loading and unloading per City
ordinance and said the final plan will show all parking spaces and loading zones.
4. Conditional use permit to allow off-site parking per Section 3, Subd. G.12 of
the Spring Park Zoning Ordinance.
6. Parking variance from the required number of parking stalls per Section 3,
Subd. G.11. (Proposal is for a reduction of 11 parking stalls.)
Hughes stated #4 and #6 are parking concerns. He said he is concerned with the
parking and does not feel the parking can be reduced especially with a community
room. Klein asked if the businesses would object to a parking problem. Frostad
said if he reduced the retail space from 7,000 square feet to 5,000, his project
• would be 100% compliant with the parking. He added he would have enough
parking if the parking spaces on Spring Street can be considered in the parking
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• count for his proposed commercial space. Frostad said there are currently 27
parking spaces on the east/west portion of Spring Street and 13 spaces on the
north/south portion. He said the 27 would be reduced to 21 spaces. Hughes said
the ordinance regarding Spring Street could be rescinded. Stone stated the
Council wants the parking problem to be resolved. Frostad said it could be if he
reduces the square feet of retail space and the City will allow the parking on
Spring Street to be used in his count of parking spaces. Klein expressed concern
with parking on City streets i.e. Northern Avenue that may be a result of not
enough parking for the development.
Aschinger asked if any variances have been approved for reduced parking in the
City and was told no. She also inquired who was paying for the relocation of
utilities and Frostad said he was.
5. Setback variance from the 10 foot setback from the right-of-way from any
local or county street and setback variance to allow the building to extend over a
lot line to the north within the C-1 Zoning District. (Proposal is for 0 foot
setback.)
Hughes said this issue has to be agreeable with the county. Frostad said it no
longer is an issue because it has been cleared with the county. He added the 0
foot setback is on the property line underground. Klein asked if there was going
to be a walkway along side the building. Frostad said there is room for a
• sidewalk.
Sippel said a CUP seems easier to get around versus variance requests because
with a variance a hardship has to be demonstrated. He said there are ways to
mitigate a CUP but not for variances because conditions can be placed on a CUP.
Mork Bredeson said any issue can be a critical issue, this proposed development
will be a precedent, and the City has to be cautious with it's decisions. Aschinger
asked if there were terms of agreement for giving part of Spring Street and if a
cost was involved. Frostad said his request is a partial vacation and the City is
agreeing to it if he can demonstrate the traffic flow will be maintained and there is
no fee. Hughes asked who would maintain it and Frostad said it is still a City
street. Klein asked how maintaining the traffic flow is demonstrated. Frostad
said a diagram would show this.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes—6/7/04
Klein referred to the last sentence on page 3, ".. the traffic is the county's
problem, not the developer's problem". She asked how could an approval of a
variance and a CUP for a development be made without an official traffic study
being done prior to a Planning Commission's recommendation. She would like to
request an official study be done prior to the public hearing for Spring Street.
• Sippel asked her why she would allow that to adversely affect a development in
Spring Park when a development in Mound can adversely affect our traffic more.
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Klein asked what the impact is going to be at that intersection. Nelson said a
function of the Planning Commission is to consider impact to the City and the
residents.
Hughes pointed out the letter from 5th Street Ventures (abutting property owner to
the Spring Street Development)brings up additional issues.
Anderson said if we go to the county and ask them for a traffic study and base
judgment on the development because of a possible traffic problem, we would not
have the development. He said we have to be careful what we ask for. Mork
Bredeson said if we go to the county we would not have results for six months.
She said we could make a request of the developer to do a preliminary study on
the traffic, and it might not be appropriate to request a study from the county. She
added the type of residents (retirees and snowbirds) make a difference in the
traffic. Klein said if the traffic impact is great enough, maybe this is not the right
development. Hughes said it would be helpful to have this information before the
public hearing.
b) Council Minutes—6/21/04
c) Special Meeting Minutes—6/24/04
d) Building& Sign Report June
e) July Calendar
• f) August Calendar
g) Letter R.A. Putnam & Assoc. Re: Redevelopment of Spring Park Downtown —
7/9/04
h) 51h Street Ventures Re: Lakeview Lofts Development—7/14/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
"Opening Statements By The Chair"
Hughes explained he received this handout from a seminar he recently attended. He
said he would like the Planning Commissioners to read it and he would like to add
another statement to it. That statement would be "motions are made in the
affirmative so a positive motion is on the table. He asked the Commissioners if they
had any other comments.
Sippel said it should be stated to the public that the Planning Commission will listen
to all comments but will only consider comments that are findings of fact in relation
to the ordinances. Anderson asked the Commissioners how they feel about the
project. Sippel said he is supportive of the concept, it will be an asset to our
downtown area and we can mitigate the CUP requests but variance requests will
require a hardship. Mork Bredeson said it has high potential and high density is the
best way to develop those properties to make it economical to the developer.
Aschinger said she likes a small town feel and the two developments are concerning.
She added the improvement of land needs to happen and the City will have to make
• some concessions. Hughes stated he is in favor of redevelopment and has an issue
with parking and height. Nelson said she likes a small town effect. She said it
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• should not be the City's problem when developers state what they propose is the
only way they can make the project worthwhile financially. Mork Bredeson said that
was not the question and asked if it is better to find someone to develop the area with
something less. Anderson said he is in favor of the project and it is a chance to get
rid of the blighted areas and is a chance to clean up our City. He said the density
does not bother him and asked what our other option is if we do not support this. He
said the Commissioners have an opportunity to work as a cohesive group and show
we are positive in reviewing this development. Klein said it is exciting that this is
happening to Spring Park and she does have an issue with the parking especially
when it may be an impact on the surrounding residents.
Hughes asked the Commissioners if the discussion at this meeting was helpful and
the consensus was it was helpful.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Mork Bredeson to adjourn the Planning
Commission Meeting at 9:18 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 11, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—July 14, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Discussion on Requests for Spring Street Development
1. 5th Street Ventures Re: Lakeview Lofts—7/14/04
• 6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes—7/6/04
b) Council Minutes—7/19/04
c) Special Meeting—7/22/04
d) Special Meeting—7/29/04
e) Shoreline Place Association Re: Traffic Analysis— 6/28/04
f) August Calendar
g) Channel 8 Schedule—August
h) OPD News Release
i) Building & Sign Report—July
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK,MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
AUGUST 11,2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the Pledge of
Allegiance to the flag.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Nelson, Hughes, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone were present
and Bredeson and Klein were excused. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl. Others
present: Todd Frostad and Brian Dusek, Frostad Development Co.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Nelson seconded by Sippel to adopt the agenda. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —July 14, 2004
Motion by Anderson seconded by Aschinger to approve the Planning
Commission minutes on July 14, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Discussion on Requests for Spring Street Development
1. 51h Street Ventures Re: Lakeview Lofts—7/14/04 -Noted
Hughes stated there have been several work sessions regarding the Spring Street
Development. He asked Frostad to update the Commissioners with what he has
changed with the development. Frostad said the primary area of focus was the
site plan and parking. He said they retained 6 parking spaces on Spring Street,
more green space has been added and the island has been expanded for a better
traffic pattern. He added the loading zone has been moved to the front of the
property, there will be a full sidewalk along the front and along the county road.
Frostad pointed a precedent was set on with Shoreline Place several years ago
with most of the same issues with his development i.e. setback from county right-
of-way, and side and rear set backs. Dusek pointed out the 7 parking spaces
currently on Spring Street are probably not in compliant regarding size. Frostad
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• said there are 19 parking spaces located in the interior parking area and only 16
spaces are needed for retail.
Hughes verified the "c's" on the drawings are intended for compact cars. Hughes
asked if storage units are being located beyond the residential entryway. Frostad
said that is still being reviewed because there would not be enough storage units
for all 39 condos. Hughes asked if the intent is to use the back of the building for
delivery, loading, and unloading. Frostad said the HCRRA is not giving him
written permission but at the same time they are not going to tell him not to use
the area. He said he was told the only surface rights for the development are for
an emergency.
Nelson asked if the parking spaces allotted to residents would be long enough for
items such as bicycles in front of the vehicle. Frostad said they would be and
there will also be an overhead storage cage for each parking stall. Nelson
commented that if most of the residents were snowbirds they would probably like
a grand entry in that area versus storage units. Sippel commented that this is not
an issue for the Planning Commission.
Hughes asked if the intent is to continue the sidewalk past the railroad line.
Frostad said it would go to the tracks. He said the City and county would have to
agree and allow landscaping along that area. Hughes asked how may trees are
• going to be removed. Frostad said proposed planters will replace the 9 trees on
Spring Street and bushes are being proposed along the west. He added there
would be an escrow account with the county for landscaping on the north.
Aschinger suggested relocating the trees if possible. Frostad said he would if the
City can coordinate it.
Anderson asked the mission of this meeting. Hughes said it was to consider
answers to questions for the public hearing. Frostad added it was to address
specific criteria to this project pertaining to the variance and CUP requests of
which he listed, and he pointed out the parking problem has been eliminated. He
stated the ordinance calls for contiguous property for off site parking and is
waiting for the City Attorney's final answer on the matter.
Sippel asked if they will vote at the public hearing on each request separately and
wanted to know if the variances would be treated as one. Hughes said we could
make each request a separate vote. Hughes pointed out his concern for the zero
setback on the corner at Spring Street by the garage doors. Frostad said he is
committed to installing a motion controlled camera for displaying traffic outside
from the inside and the person in a vehicle would be able to see any traffic while
waiting for the overhead door to open. Sippel asked if the two garage doors
proposed are for aesthetic or structural reasons. Frostad said they were for traffic
control and keeping it a two-way passageway.
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• Frostad said he made a change in the distribution of the lighting per a request
from the City Planner. He pointed out another change is the parking bays are
closed in the rear and a service entrance is provided. Frostad briefly discussed the
exterior color aesthetics. Anderson said everybody has an opinion and for the
Planning Commission to make a recommendation would be impossible. Hughes
said it is within the Planning Commission's authority to recommend exterior
finish and color. Aschinger clarified the lower level is still brick.
Hughes referred to the requests of the developer and said they could go through
the list. He added precedent has been set with Shoreline Place except for the
height. Hughes said the DNR has to approve the height, the MCWD has
submitted their approval and those comments along with the City Planners will be
distributed to the Planning Commission for the public hearing.
At this time Hughes noted the public hearing for the requests for this development
is going to be September 1st
Motion by Hughes seconded by Sippel to substitute the public hearing on
September 1st for the regularly scheduled Planning Commission meeting on
September 81h. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Hughes explained the procedure for the public hearing on September 1st. He
• stated he would ask Frostad to make a full presentation on the project followed by
comments and questions from the public and wait until all questions are in before
answering them. He suggested the City Attorney, City Planner and the developer
could answer most of the questions.
Frostad said the TIF (Tax Increment Financing) Report articulates the positive for
this development and how it will benefit the community. It was noted the public
hearing for the TIF will be 9/7/04 and any questions from the public regarding
this will be referred to that public hearing. Frostad noted the Planner would
provide justification for hardships for the variance requests. Frostad said he
would be bringing his architect and engineer to the public hearing.
Anderson said the Planning Commission's responsibility is to fulfill their
obligation to the best of their ability and make this a positive procedure. Sippel
noted the public has traffic concerns and he was told the Council voted down a
traffic study proposal. Sippel speculated there is more concern with traffic
backing up on Shoreline Drive and noted this is not a concern for the public
hearing. Aschinger anticipated public parking would be a concern.
Sippel stated the public comments to be considered have to pertain to the CUP
and variance requests and that is the point of the public hearing. In a non-related
item he asked Frostad if building code dictated the number of restrooms for his
• proposed common area. Frostad said this was a residential restroom and the code
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differs from commercial regarding this. He said most architects' design according
to the building code.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes—7/6/04
b) Council Minutes—7/19/04
Anderson stated he would prefer the City use an asphalt rolling curb when the
situation would arise.
Motion by Anderson seconded by Aschinger to recommend to the Council to
consider using a rolling asphalt curb when improvements are made to any of
the City streets. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
c) Special Meeting—7/22/04
d) Special Meeting—7/29/04
e) Shoreline Place Association Re: Traffic Analysis—6/28/04
f) August Calendar
g) Channel 8 Schedule—August
h) OPD News Release
i) Building & Sign Report -July
• 7. MISCELLANEOUS—None
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Anderson seconded by Aschinger to adjourn the meeting at 8:41 p.m.
All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 1, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—August 11, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Public Hearing, Lakeview Lofts, Spring Street
1. Open Public Hearing
• 2. Discussion &Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
a) NAC Re: Lakeview Lofts Planning Report with Exhibits
b) Head, Seifert &Vander Weide Re: Findings of Fact for Variance Request
c) Head, Seifert &Vander Weide Re: Findings of Fact for Conditional Use
Permit
d) Resident Request for Dedicated Park Funds—9/1/04
e) Springsted Memo &Resolution 04-19 Re: TIF
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes— 8/2/04
b) Special Meeting Minutes—8/12/04
c) Council Minutes— 8/16/04
d) Hennepin County News Re: Smoking Ban— 8/17/04
e) September Calendar
f) Channel 8 Schedule September
g) Memo Re: Meeting on Lakeview Lofts 8/30/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 1, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Klein, Hughes, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone
were present and Nelson was excused. Staff present: Administrator Weeks and
Deputy Clerk Corl. Others present: City Attorney's Tom Seifert, Nancy Beck; City
Planner Alan Brixius; City Engineer Ken Adolf.
• 3. ADOPT AGENDA
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Mork Bredeson to adopt the agenda. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—August 11, 2004
Motion by Sippel seconded by Aschinger to approve the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting August 11, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Public Hearing, Lakeview Lofts, Spring Street
1. Open Public Hearing
Hughes explained the protocol and the process that would be used for the
public hearing.
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to open the public hearing at 7:35
p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
Todd Frostad and Brian Dusek, Frostad Development Co., were present.
Frostad was asked to present his proposal. He stated he wanted to develop
• something appropriate and within the guidelines for the City. He explained
the status of the Spring Street property before he entered into an agreement to
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• develop the area and how the City was actively soliciting a developer to
develop the properties on Spring Street. He stated he was told the City was
looking for a larger scale project because those particular properties would
cost more to obtain. Frostad said he was told early on that the parking
requirements must be met and no variances for parking would be granted. He
said he knew the City was willing to consider Conditional Use Permits
(CUP's) and other things to allow the project. He stated his original plan was
for 42 residential units and 7,600 square feet for commercial space.
A predevelopment agreement was established and Frostad then learned he
needed to address rights of access, utilities, etc and the City could not vacate
all of Spring Street. He said he then designed a smaller footprint to allow the
existing roadway to remain the same size as it is today. The number of units
and commercial space was reduced. The underground parking for the
residential units required an underground easement from Hennepin County.
He noted the structure fits within confines of the City's parking requirements
in the ordinance.
He pointed out his requests: to vacate part of a City roadway; setbacks from
Spring Street and the county right-of-way, he said the building is at the
roadway; a CUP is needed to change the use of the sight for occupancy of
residents on the site (mixed use), he pointed out most of the properties
• currently on the site have residential occupancy. He also pointed out almost
every existing building is already over their property lines.
Frostad pointed out the site is 60 feet wide. He state he looked at how to
facilitate easy access in and out of building and changed the plans to facilitate
a safer exit from the underground garage by putting in a side window, a
motion control camera and a monitor that would show activity outside on
roadway. He said a condition for the easement on the back of the property is
to put an additional $13,000 in escrow for future enhancement of the HCRRA
(Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority) property. He stated he is
creating a sidewalk from Sunset down to the HCRRA property and trying to
create beautification not only within the property but also surrounding the
property
Frostad said he worked on how to create a run off system. He said there will
be a 14' x 14' x 40' long, concrete holding pond underground that would
dispense water into the catch basin for better control of run off water in that
area. He pointed out the City has to approve the underground parking on the
HCRRA property because the parking ordinance states the parking for the site
has to be contiguous on the site. Frostad pointed out the 12' x 50' loading
zone is located in front of the building instead of in back and it will look like
the rest of the sidewalk so it will be aesthetically not look like a loading zone.
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• into one for a total of 22,000 square feet of land. He said the City will have to
look at a partial vacation of Spring Street; an easement has to be in place; a
clear title of all the Spring Street property has to be obtained; there is concern
with maintaining the public street access and current right-of-way. Brixius
said the project does eliminate some landscaping but maintains the turning
radius for large trucks at the Tonka Ventures Building to the west of the
project. He said the street is being done at the developer's expense.
He stated the site plan is in a C-1, Commercial and a CUP is a use that is
allowed in that area. He said the reason it is allowed is because when the
Zoning Ordinance was updated in 1991, we were looking at our future and
protecting our interests and if we do anything with commercial and
manufacturing, we have to have flexibility.
Brixius said there is a variance request for encroachments along Sunset Drive.
He said when we look at variances we have to look at hardship within the
property. In order to create a buildable site the lots have to be combined and
the developer has to provide underground parking because of the 60-foot wide
lot. He said the question should be asked if this is the minimum variance.
Brixius pointed out concern was raised with the exit from the garage and
Frostad was told a condition of the variance if approved would be the City
wants a large window on the west side and one on Spring Street and a video
• monitoring system.
He noted there is not much room for landscaping and recommended fruitless
crab trees for low maintenance. He also noted the loading area is needed and
a tree has to be moved at that location as well as to make room for a window
for the garage exit. In exchange for this the developer has agreed to landscape
the islands. Brixius said part of the development contract should state the
escrow and the schedule for the landscaping.
He said it was made clear the City will not give a variance for parking and
establish that precedent. Brixius pointed out Frostad has 79 parking spaces
for residential and he only needs 78; he has 18 parking spaces for retail (3750
square feet) and the ordinance requires 17; he has 6 public parking spaces on
Spring Street for guest parking which is not required by City ordinance. He
said the developer has complied with the ordinance regarding parking
requirements.
Brixius stated the short term parking spaces should be marked as such; some
kind of drainage is need so water does not go back into the garage; the loading
area is designed so that it will look like a plaza (anticipating smaller delivery
trucks) so it will not look unsightly and will accommodate a 55' truck; the
sidewalk will be construction at the developers expense and also crosswalks to
• assure safe pedestrian circulation. He concluded by asking recommendation
for approval of this proposal based on the listed conditions.
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Brixius said the building height is 59 feet and the measurement is the average
at the gable. He thinks the site is capable of handling the proposed use; it will
be primarily residential traffic and not intensive; County Roads 15 and 51 can
handle the traffic; the utilities will be available on Spring Street and the
proposal fits in the redevelopment objective of the City's Comprehensive
Plan. He said there was concern with integrating the building with the
lakeshore so staff recommendations are the use of softer colors, and the use of
more brick.
Brixius stated the proposed project is commercial and residential use in the
same building and that mixed use is allowed as a conditional use; the
narrowness of building on the west end along with the window placement and
triple glass windows, he feels this is consistent with the Comp Plan; parking is
segregated from residential and commercial and the applicant has satisfied the
requirements for this CUP.
He said the City is trying to recognize the realities on the site with the
impervious surface and front-loading area; the site is an opportunity for a
storm water retention and treatment plan including Spring Street that is not
there currently where water would be released at a controllable rate.
• In conclusion Brixius said the City looks at this as an opportunity, the 33 feet
being vacated is no longer needed for pubic use and we can maintain the
current traffic pattern. The final plat is required with a development contract
which will bind the contractor to completing the project as planned with
conditions on the CUP'S and the project is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. On last condition is in regards to snow removal on Spring Street; in
exchange for approval it will be the responsibility of the association to pay to
remove the snow in that area and satellite dishes must be roof mounted and
screened from view.
At this time Hughes asked for comments from the public.
A. J. Chouanard, Warren Avenue, asked if a canopy would be in front of
building over the entry. Frostad said it was considered but it would be in the
way of trucks delivering. Chouanard said he was concerned with school bus
safety and said a drop off area for students can serve that purpose. He asked if
the public parking is 24 hours and said 6 spaces is not enough for guest
parking. Frostad said there are 19 total public parking spaces on the street.
Bob Olsen, West Arm Drive, said he objected to an almost 60-foot building
and would like to see it scaled back. Several residents on West Arm Drive
also objected with Olsen.
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• Roger Swanson, West Arm Drive, applauded this opportunity and said he is
the closest neighbor to the property. He pointed out the grade level of the
project is higher than their homes and is concerned the building is 40% higher
than standards. He also has an objection to the height of the building and he
stated guest parking of 6 cars is not enough. He distributed pictures from
Frostad's web site of the views of the site. Aschinger clarified they were
taken from approximately a third floor. In response to the height, Frostad
said he is trying to develop something within the land acquisition costs and if
it were financially viable to develop the area without variances and CUP's it
would be a lot easier.
Kathy Stewart, West Arm Drive, asked what the back of the building would
look like. Frostad said it would look the same as the front except for the retail
windows; the aesthetics will be the same.
Shay Long, Sunset Drive, stated her objection is the height. She asked what
landscaping will be in the back and Frostad said he was limited to black dirt
and sod.
Mike Mason, Del Otero, asked what would be done on the 2"d story above the
retail. Frostad said there are three stories of residential units and storage
lockers will be within the lobby area of the residential access.
• Seifert asked Frostad to state the size and cost of the residential units. They
will range from 800 square feet to 1,700 square feet and the cost range would
be $225,000 to $700,000. It was noted the retail business will not be open all
the time and those parking spaces can be used for guest parking in the evening
for more flexibility. Brixius stated that premise could be considered.
One resident asked about restaurant potential with regard to parking. Seifert
pointed out there is a separate requirement for restaurant parking and it would
be difficult to have a restaurant on the sight.
Joe Sullivan, Excelsior and part owner of 5th Street Ventures and Marina
Center, stated they are the largest taxpayer in the City and are opposed to the
project because it is over reaching, the size, density, height and precedent it
would set. He added as taxpayers they are opposed to the request for public
subsidy. He proceeded to read his letter to the editor in the local paper.
Sullivan said the Commissioners are viewed as representatives of the
community and have to look at consequences of this proposal. He stated 5th
Street Ventures requests an awareness of the manufacturing next to the
proposed project. He added they will someday develop their lot to the
maximum and stated again their opposition is strong to this project.
• Hughes noted, thus far he has heard zero comments on the color proposed for
the building.
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Seifert said this is our downtown and whatever gets built will be here for a
long time and he cannot over emphasize the importance of the color and
appearance and we have the ability to request what we want to see.
Marilyn Christensen, West Arm Drive, said she is concerned that this
development compliments the development on the Mtka. Mist property and it
is important to work with that developer to make the City more beautiful.
David Stewart, West Arm Drive, stated he is concerned with the height. He
pointed out they have to maintain their private street and if the sunlight is
blocked in the winter, they will have more ice to deal with. He said he is also
concerned with the 94% of lot coverage, the water movement system for
project and who will be maintaining it on a regular basis, and run offs when
there are large rainfalls, etc and prevent the water from coming onto their
property. He wanted to know what assurances could be given.
Ken Adolf stated the City staff and the MCWD each with the developer
reviewed the drainage plans and each would have to approve the plans. He
said the primary feature is to control and retain water after a storm, discharge
it over a period of time, provide rate control and treatment of run off and offer
sedimentation treatment. He pointed out the proposed plan is better than what
currently exists on the site.
Hughes asked what standard is used to build the system. Adolf said the
criteria are from the watershed, which uses the 100-year storm criteria.
Stewart asked who approved first, the City or the watershed. Adolf said the
City recommends to the watershed. Dusek stated the application has been
submitted and the City is waiting for final comment. A representative from
Schoell & Madson said the watershed is in general favor of the plan and was
waiting for comments from the City before going forward.
Frostad's architect said the site today is 100% impervious with 0 retention and
this project is a vast improvement over what is there today. Frostad said there
have been several analysis's to determine impervious surface. Stewart was
told the City has to approve the plans before the developer can proceed.
Hughes said approvals can be made contingent upon all favorable reports are
received by the City. Seifert said if the Planning Commission recommends
approval to the Council and it is approved by the Council, a series of
conditions have to be completed to the City's satisfied or nothing can go
forward with developer and it takes time to work through it all.
Stewart inquired about refuse removal and storage for the proposal. Frostad
said two dumpsters are behind closed doors, one for residential and one for
• commercial and all are concealed. Mason asked who monitors the holding
water for plugs. Adolf said that issue has not been defined, but the
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• responsibility is either the City or the condo association. Frostad said he is
placing money in the condo budget to have that service inspect that.
Janet Adams, Minneapolis, asked how the parking area across the street fit
into the long-term plan. Brixius pointed out Tonka Ventures owns the
property and there is a possibility of building on it in the future. He noted any
building would be evaluated on its own merit. He said the City approached
Tonka Ventures and they rejected the idea. Sullivan said the economics did
not work for them and the properties were priced too high.
Carrie Johnson, a potential resident of Spring Park, thought the project would
be an asset to the City. Adams asked the zoning of the parking lot. Brixius
said the lot was zoned C-1 and the building to the west was zoned
Manufacturing.
Klein asked if anyone sees any traffic issues. Sullivan asked if a traffic study
was required. Ex-officio Stone said the Council denied having a study done.
Seifert pointed out the traffic generated by the restaurant that was on Spring
Street and said there will be less traffic generated with this development. He
added with the Cornerstone proposal more traffic might be created at the
intersection on Sunset Drive. Stone pointed out the current construction in
Mound probably sends more traffic through Spring Park. Mason said
• approximately 275 people will be added to Spring Park and the potential for a
traffic issue is there. Frostad said the Council does not have the ability to do
anything about traffic on the county roads and traffic issues would point to the
intersection and not to the development.
Chouanard asked if making Spring Street a one-way was considered. Brixius
said the City needed to preserve the traffic and access to the Tonka Ventures
Building. Brixius said a subdivision on a county road is subject to county
review and Hennepin County said this proposed building was a non-issue for
them. Mason asked if the title on Spring Street was settled. Frostad said a
title insurance company is willing to carry the insurance until it is cleared.
Hughes asked a quiet title process would be done. Seifert said part of the
process is a Torrens registration to determine who owns the street.
3. Close Public Hearing
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Aschinger to close the public
hearing at 9:32 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. Recommendation to Council
The following reports were referred to during the meeting:
a) NAC Re: Lakeview Lofts Planning Report with Exhibits
• b) Head, Seifert &Vander Weide Re: Findings of Fact for Variance Request
c) Head, Seifert &Vander Weide Re: Findings of Fact for Conditional Use
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• Permit
d) Resident Request for Dedicated Park Funds—9/1/04
e) Springsted Memo &Resolution 04-19 Re: TIF
f) Head, Seifert & Vander Weide Re: Findings of Fact for Partial Vacation
of Spring Street
g) Head, Seifert & Vander Weide Re: Finding of Fact for Proposed
Preliminary Plat
Anderson said he has the same concerns as residents with the height and that it
is too high and would shade West Arm Drive. Hughes asked what is the
process to go through to make a recommendation to review this concern.
Brixius said there is a formula to figure the solar impact. Brixius did not feel
there was an impact. He also pointed out the tower on the Tonka Building is
taller and does not block the sun. Hughes said he was in favor of a condition
that the height does not impair the driveways of residents of West Arm Drive.
Aschinger said her driveway in on the north side of her house and considers it
part of living in the neighborhood. Anderson said their concern is his
concern.
Mork Bredeson said she could ask the developer if the project is viable if it is
one story less but we already know the soil is contaminated, and we already
know there are underground fuel tanks that are a health concern, and it will be
• a huge expense to clean up this property. She said we have to take into
account all things that have to be considered and the expenses may start to be
recovered at the 3rd story level and an enormous amount of money is being
put into our City. Frostad stated it would not be economically viable to
reduce the height of the building and he would lose money if de did. Mork
Bredeson pointed out if there was no project there would be no run off
control, and contaminated soil would not be taken care of, etc. Klein agreed
there was a trade off. Sippel said he was not originally concerned with the
height but would like to make the sure sun does not block the above-
mentioned driveways.
Hughes said he was happy to see the building located in the middle of the two
bays and not closer to the water. He also feels that as the trail is built, etc. that
will start to be a buffer zone. He also feels figures should be provided
regarding solar access on the driveways before the Council acts on the
recommendation.
Aschinger said she did not want to see a tunnel effect in the City. She stated
concern with hardcover even though it is currently 100% and there is an
opportunity for improvements. She asked if it was possible to make an
exchange for something else in the City be it a monetary amount or preserving
space. Brixius said the reason this issue is a CUP rather than a variance is we
• do not have areas we can open up and the land area defined lots are small, the
commercial areas are paved and we did not want to take land away from
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existing areas. He reiterated we will have retention we did not have before
and it is a marked improvement. Frostad again said he is putting $13,000 in
escrow for landscaping.
Hughes asked if there were any other questions regarding the CUP for the
height of the building. Sippel asked if a condition was going to be put on it.
Hughes said we can so note conditions and the recommendation is based on
but the motion has to stand by itself. Sippel stated he would like to put a
condition on the motion. Hughes asked how many Commissioners are in
favor of obtaining figures on the sunlight impairment of the driveways and
most said they were in favor or a study. Sippel requested the Council have
that information for their next meeting and it was agreed not to add this to the
motion.
Brixius referred to pages 13 — 15 on his report and suggested the
Commissioners act on one request at a time and note recommendations and he
will list the conditions in a report. Mork Bredeson asked if they were voting
on the entire project. Brixius noted his conditions on each request in the
summary of his report. He said the variance should be voted on separately.
Mork Bredeson asked for clarification if they were going to pass or decline
the project. Hughes asked Stone how this should go to the Council and she
said to vote on each request.
• Brixius pointed out he had recommendations on the variances for Sunset
Drive and Spring Street, on the preliminary plat. He said the CUP's had
similar criteria and they could add criteria i.e. shadow on the driveways. He
suggested taking action in order with conditions outlined. Beck stated if they
approve or disapprove they are required to make findings of fact and to make
it easier they can say they want to approve each or all at once and refer to
Brixius' report by reference and if they disapprove they can say the facts do
not support it.
Hughes said they would start with the CUPS at this time.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Anderson to recommend to the
Council to approve the following requests on page 2 on the Planner's
Report dated August 25, 2004 and include his recommendations and
conditions found in the report: #4 CUP to allow residential and non-
residential uses within the same principal structure; #5 CUP to allow a
proposed building to exceed three stories or 40 feet in height and add an
additional request for a solar access impact study related to shadow to
West Arm Townhomes be submitted to City Council; #7 CUP to allow
off-site parking to meet the parking demands of the mixed use
development; #8 CUP to allow a loading zone in the front of the building.
• Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Hughes, Aschinger and Sippel
voted aye and Klein voted no. Motion declared carried.
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• Hughes asked if the 94% hardcover includes the underground parking. Dusek
said it does not include the easement. Hughes said he had no problem with
this because it is actually improving the run off and Klein agreed.
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Anderson to recommend to the Council
to approve request#6 on page 2 of the Planner's Report dated August 25,
2004 and include his recommendations and conditions found in the
report: a CUP to allow lot coverage of the proposed building to exceed
75% impervious surface. Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Anderson,
Klein, Hughes,Aschinger and Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
Hughes read the conditions of the variance request recommended in the
Planners Report on page 14 dated August 25, 2004. Brixius confirmed the
City Attorney provided findings of fact. Beck stated the findings of fact
follow variance requirements. Hughes said to include the condition there be a
run off grate at the garage entrance. Aschinger said to include the short-term
parking spaces across the street to be marked as such. Brixius recommended
the City spots be marked; definitely the 6 spots and the City would have to
decide. Frostad noted a sound system in a residential area might not be
appropriate. Siefert said to include "require cameras and monitors". Beck
said to make a reference to that particular wording. It was decided to refer to
• the undated findings of fact, from the attorney, by their agenda item number in
the Planning Commission packet.
Motion by Mork Bredeson to recommend to the Council to approve
request #3 on page 2 of the Planner's Report dated August 25, 2004 and
include his recommendations and conditions found in the report and
include in the wording on page 14) 4. b. "require cameras and a
monitoring system other than an alarm system": a variance from 10 foot
setback requirements from public right-of-way along Spring Street and
CSAH 51 defined in the finding of fact agenda item 5.a) 4.b)
Sippel made a friendly amendment to vote on the setback
recommendation separately seconded by Hughes. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Aschinger to recommend to the
Council to approve the variance request defined in the finding of fact
agenda item 5.a)4.b). for a 10 foot setback requirement from the public
right-of-way along Spring Street (part of request #3 on page 2 of the
Planner's Report dated August 25, 2004 and include his
recommendations and conditions found in the report and include
"require cameras and a monitoring system other than an alarm system"
• and the addition of a drainage grate on Spring Street. Upon roll call
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• Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Klein, Hughes, Aschinger and Sippel voted
aye. Motion declared carried.
Motion by Sippel seconded by Mork Bredeson to recommend to the
Council to approve the variance request defined in the finding of fact
agenda item 5.a)4.b) for a 10 foot setback requirement from the public
right-of-way along CSAH 51 (part of request #3 on page 2 of the
Planner's Report dated August 25, 2004 and include his
recommendations and conditions found in the report. Upon roll Mork
Bredeson, Anderson, Hughes, Aschinger voted aye, Klein voted no and
Sippel abstained. Motion declared carried.
In discussion Sippel stated he has concerns with the building located up to the
county right-of-way not knowing any future plans by county to widen the
road. He added he is concerned with the building creating a tunnel affect. He
added if the set back were met this could be an alternate location for the
loading area. Frostad said the county did not have an issue with the location
of the building; they just wanted sufficient space for the sidewalk. He pointed
out the Mtka Mist is closer to the county road than this proposal. Sippel
pointed out that precedent was set with Shoreline Place Condos. Mork
Bredeson said every project is based on its own merit and she pointed out the
current Laundromat is just as close as the proposed building will be.
• Brixius point out it is important, as part of the discussion on the preliminary
plat, to have a discussion on snow storage from Spring Street. Seifert said the
City will plow the snow on the street, but would like to have the ability to bill
the association for removal of the snow. He said it is important that we have
assurance to send a bill and get paid. Aschinger said an association can vote
everything thing out after the developer if done with the project. Seifert said
it is important something permanent is in place allowing the City to bill the
homeowners for the cost of removing snow on Spring Street. He added the
City has an obligation to Tonka Ventures and the residents. Aschinger said
the tenant agreement say they pay for removing the snow so they know they
are responsible.
Motion by Klein seconded by Mork Bredeson to recommend to the
Council to approve request #1 on page 2 of the Planner's Report dated
August 25, 2004 and include his recommendations and conditions found
in the report and defined in the finding of fact agenda item 5.a)4.f): the
partial vacation of the north half of the east/west arm of Spring Street
from CSAH 51 to Tonka Ventures property; The north/south arm of
Spring Street running to CSAH to remain unchanged; and an additional
condition the snow removable cost associated to it is billed to the condo
owners. Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Hughes, Aschinger
• and Sippel voted aye and Klein abstained. Motion declared carried.
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• Aschinger amended the motion to include the recommendation for the
preliminary plat but withdrew her amendment.
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Mork Bredeson to recommend to the
Council to approve request #2 on page 2 of the Planner's Report dated
August 25, 2004 and include his recommendations and conditions found
in the report and defined in the finding of fact agenda item 5.a)4.g):
Subject to the vacation of Spring Street, approval of a preliminary plat to
combine the existing parcels into a single lot and an additional condition
the snow removable cost associated to it is billed to the condo owners.
Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Klein, Hughes, Aschinger and
Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
At this time Hughes referred agenda item 5.a)4.e) Springsted Memo &
Resolution 04-19. Hughes recommended the Planning Commission table this
because they do not understand it. He said he expressed his dismay to the
author of the memo because they did not receive this information prior to this
meeting. Brixius said the resolution states that there is a finding that the use
of TIF funds is with the Comp Plan. Hughes questioned it was in the Comp
Plan and Brixius pointed to the reference. Aschinger asked what the
resolution was referencing. Brixius said it was to the full plan, valuation and
distribution of the TIF funds.
• Motion by Aschinger seconded by Mork Bredeson to table Resolution 04-
19 regarding TIF. Upon roll call Mork Bredeson, Anderson, Klein,
Hughes,Aschinger and Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
In discussion Anderson asked if approving the resolution would this expedite
what we are trying to accomplish with the requests on the agenda. Seifert said
there is no point in taking a vote on it if they do not have the information.
Hughes said he was told the Planning Commission would not have a part in
the TIF until today when he was given this resolution.
In another matter Hughes was notified there is a request from the Cornerstone
Group to have the Planning Commission hold a public hearing for their
request on September 29, 2004 instead of their regularly scheduled meeting in
October. Brixius said Cornerstone would like to go to Council earlier than it
would have been scheduled. He also indicated he needs three to four weeks to
study their requests and plans.
Klein stated she cannot take off work for workshop meetings during the day
and more information is needed on the project before a pubic hearing is held
for it. Brixius will relay this to the developer. Mork Bredeson recommended
a work session be held prior to the public hearing and all of the
• Commissioners agreed.
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• Hughes referred to agenda #5.a)4.d) A resident request for dedicated park
funds from developers. Hughes pointed out the money escrowed with the
county from Frostad for landscaping might apply to this request. He said the
request could be given to the Council as a recommendation for future
developments.
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Klein to recommend to the Council to
approve dedication funds is required from all developments. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes—8/2/04
b) Special Meeting Minutes— 8/12/04
c) Council Minutes— 8/16/04
d) Hennepin County News Re: Smoking Ban—8/17/04
e) September Calendar
f) Channel 8 Schedule—September
g) Memo Re: Meeting on Lakeview Lofts 8/30/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
• It was noted the next meeting Planning Commission Meeting October 131" could be a
work session with the Cornerstone Group. Klein requested the information be
distributed at least a week prior to the meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Aschinger to adjourn the meeting at
11:21 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 13,2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—September 1, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Cornerstone Group Development(Mtka. Mist Property)
1. Open Public Hearing
• a) Letter from Michael Erickson, 3934 Del Otero
2. Discussion&Comments
a) NAC Findings Report Re: Cornerstone Group Development— 10/6/04
b) Schoell &Madson— 10/6/04
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
b) Floodplain Ordinance—Head, Seifert&Vander Weide— 10/5/04
1. Open Public Hearing
2. Discussion & Comments
3. Close Public Hearing
4. Recommendation to Council
c) Sign Permit Application—Bayside Floral, 4310 Shoreline Drive & Staff Memo
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Special Meeting Minutes— 8/26/04
b) Special Staff Meeting Minutes—8/30/04
c) Council Minutes—9/7/04
d) Special Meeting Minutes—9/16/04
e) Special Meeting Minutes—9/17/04
f) Council Minutes—9/20/04
g) Special Meeting Minutes—9/29/04
h) Building & Sign Report—August 2004
i) Building & Sign Report—September 2004
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j) City Calendar October
k) Channel 8 Schedule October
1) Council Minutes— 10/4/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
OCTOBER 13, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Nelson, Klein, Hughes, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone were
present, and Mork Bredeson was excused. Staff Present: Administrator Weeks and
Deputy Clerk Corl; Others present: Alan Brixius and Dan Petrik, City Planners;
Tom Seifert, City Attorney; Ken Adolf, City Engineer; Cornerstone Group and
Cunningham Group.
• 3. ADOPT THE AGENDA
Motion by Klein seconded by Aschinger to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES— September 1, 2004
Motion by Sippel seconded by Aschinger to approve the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting September 1, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Cornerstone Group Development(Mtka. Mist Property)
Hughes explained the Planning Commissioners are appointed by the City Council;
their decisions are advisory; they are responsible for making decisions on requests
before them based on the laws and City code; the purpose of the public hearing is
to make sure everyone has the opportunity to speak. He said the following
process will be used: he will read the published notice; the developer and
architect will make their presentation; the City Planner and City Attorney will
make their presentation; those in attendance could ask questions.
1. Open Public Hearing
• a) Letter from Michael Erickson, 3934 Del Otero -Noted
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• Hughes opened the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. He read the public hearing
notice published in the Laker Newspaper September 25, 2004.
2. Discussion & Comments
a) NAC Findings Report Re: Cornerstone Group Development— 10/6/04
b) Schoell &Madson— 10/6/04
The above reports were noted. Brixius stated he was here to review the
requests from the Cornerstone Group's proposed development. Brixius'
presentation included the following:
Two buildings are proposed with each containing residential and commercial
uses. The larger north building will contain 94 living units and 1,247 square
feet of commercial space. The south building will have 12 living units in
addition to 10,374 square feet of commercial space. Both building are in
excess of height allowed in the ordinance. The redevelopment consists of
eight parcels producing 2.99 acres. The site is zoned C-1, General
Commercial District and Conditional Use Permits (CUP's) have to be
considered for building height in excess of three stories and mixed use in one
building, vacation of portion of Del Otero, and Preliminary plat for
combination of existing parcels.
• The commercial objectives must include the following standards: All
buildings should be professionally designed with standards expected of high
quality development; Provide area wide parking and pedestrian circulation
system and a high level of business interchange between existing and new
commercial development; Commercial loading area and outside storage be
adequately screened; Rooftop equipment be screened; Lighting and landscape
plans be considered to reduce the amount of impervious surface; Development
must have on-site drainage and stormwater management to regulate the
quality of water going into the lake.
All setbacks have been complied with according to code. Some retaining
walls are 3 feet from the property line but they enhance the area. The
landscape plan identifies species, size, and location, and all plant sizes meet
City expectation. The City is recommending a change with the proposed
fence on the east side of the south building so it does not obstruct the site line.
The proposed development will reduce the impervious surface from 90% to
65%. There are stormwater issues where the property abuts the HCRRA
property because of depressions and the drainage from the rooftop on the
north building to the drainage site needs to be addressed.
On site parking exceeds the ordinance requirements. The north building has a
• total of 214 parking spaces underground in two tiers (197 residential, 17
guest) along eastern portion of the building. The south building will have 26
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• parking spaces for residential underground. There will be 43 surface parking
spaces and 11 retail spaces underground in the south building.
There are issues with access on Del Otero. The City is asking for a utility
easement that will go across the property starting where Del Otero ends and
extend to Sunset Drive. Del Otero will need reconstruction after the
installation of water and sewer utilities for the property. This cost will be the
developer's and would be reasonable compensation for the partial vacation of
Del Otero.
An analysis of trips generated by the current and proposed land use was
conducted to evaluate the project's impact on traffic. The analysis indicated
the traffic for the proposed development would be less than the current land
use.
The loading area for the north building is located on the east side of the
building adjacent to property line. Adequate screening will be provided for
that loading area. There is a small commercial space of 1,247 square feet on
the west end of the north building. The only access to this space is from the
surface parking lot. The demands for loading for this space should be
minimal and could be managed around peak hour use for the parking lot.
Noting this the Council could waive the requirement for loading space at this
• area.
Both buildings exceed the maximum height allowed by code. The south
building was reduced from a 4-story to a 3-story building with an average
height of 45 feet. The building has been tiered back to reduce the vertical
image. The north building is a 5-story building and is 69 feet high from
average grade to the flat part of the roof. A solar access study was conducted
to assess the impact of Lakeview Lofts on residential areas to the north. A
similar study should be conducted to determine if there would be any solar
impact to the surrounding area.
Accommodations should be made for the placement of accessory equipment
i.e. satellite dishes so they are not viewable by pedestrians or on the ground
level. Project lighting should not intrude on neighboring uses. All lighting
fixtures should be coordinated with Lakeview Lofts so it is consistent across
Sunset Drive and along Shoreline Drive.
The following design standards were agreed to regarding streetscape design
and circulation. Street widths on Sunset are to accommodate 6-foot bike lanes
on each side of the street. Sidewalks shall be at least 6 feet wide, 8 feet where
possible. Boulevard trees are to be placed on the parcel side of the sidewalks.
Decorative street lighting and pedestrian lighting are to replace the existing
• lighting. Crosswalks shall be stamped or colored concrete at grade with
existing asphalt. Retaining walls contribute to visual feeling and will be build
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• to seating height to provide public seating making public space more available
to the public and stairways will be built wider and more frequent,
It is important that the docks currently used for temporary and transient uses
remain and that the docks are not used for permanent (overnight) docking.
Part of this approval is the docks will be limited to transient docks only and
dock rights to new condo residents are waived as not to intrude upon Del
Otero property owners.
Colleen Carey, President of Cornerstone Group asked for questions and
concerns. She said they received Brixius' report and felt he did an excellent
job of explaining the project. Hughes referred to the rendition of the overall
project and asked if Spring Street has changed their color scheme. He was
told the color of that project was muted to show their project more readily.
Brixius stated the Planning Commission should consider the colors and the
stucco. He said it is important to express this. Hughes asked the residents to
comment on this.
Seifert gave a brief history of the dock situation. He said the LMCD issued a
special density license in 1980's and then deemed it to be improperly issued.
Those docks were grandfathered in and consisted of 40 transient docks and 25
permanent docks. He said the document does not show how 25 permanent
• docks are assigned. He added 30 to 31 people have dock rights and they have
a system as to who uses the docks what year. Seifert stated it was a concern
of Council Person Williamson that new residents will want to use the docks.
Seifert said it would make sense that the Cornerstone Group simply state they
are waiving rights to use permanent docks. He said it should be left to the
developer as to how they use transient docks.
Aschinger asked if the developer waives rights does that prevent future
residents to waive their rights. Seifert said the developer owns the rights and
they would be waiving the rights. He said there is no way to fix this forever
and the dock usage is controlled by the LMCD. He added it is up to them to
grandfather in any more docks and it is not something the Council regulates.
Former LMCD Rep, Nelson, was asked to review the situation when the twin
homes were built on Del Otero. Nelson said the LMCD does not want
transient docks to be made into permanent docks and they have concern for
adding more boats to the lake. He said there was a previous petition to change
transient docks to permanent docks and it was rejected.
Hughes asked if there was a designated marker to show where the line is to
separate the 40 transient docks from the 25 permanent docks. He was told
there is a public record of the location of the docks. Brixius said, as a
recommendation, it should be included that the developer must maintain the
• current dock status as the Mtka. Mist did and there should be a clear
understanding at the time of sales there are no dock rights for residents.
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• Klein asked if transient means anybody can use the docks. Seifert said it
means no overnight boat parking. Hughes asked if the residents have
concerns or comments. Mike Mason, Del Otero, clarified the count is 40
spaces, not docks and there is a limit on how many docks can be built and
how long they can be. Anderson requested the discussion on docks cease
because nothing can be done about it.
Mason asked the Cornerstone Group if they were able to obtain from the
county the requested document pertaining to the docks. Olson (Cornerstone
Group) said it still has to go thru the documentation process at the county.
Mason requested a copy. Aschinger asked if this is consistent with what is in
the planners report. Olson pointed out the county never recorded the
easement that goes with the property across the street that was owned by the
Mtka. Mist. He said when they purchase the land, they will get the rights to
the docks and easement to use the land to get to the docks. Nelson clarified
the language with docks and slips, and length, etc. Seifert said the dock slips
are boat storage units (bsu's). "40 transient and 25 permanent"refers to bsu's.
Hughes referred to the plantings on the backside of the north building and
asked the distance of the patios to the property line. Stahl (Cunningham
Group) said that distance was 8 to 10 feet. Hughes asked if that area was
needed for an emergency fire exit and has to be plowed, what impact would
• this have on the plantings.
Hughes asked if we have received the Stormwater Management Plan and was
told the details have not been received. Hughes asked if there were any
drastic changes. Brixius stated the roof drainage from the north building has
to drain into the subterranean retention pond. Hughes expressed concern with
the water pressure on the top floor of the north building. Adolf said this was
addressed in his report. He stated the upper floor in the north building is one
of the highest points in the City. He said the new water tower under
construction (same height as neighboring tanks elevation) would be increased
from 50,000 gallons to 200,000 gallons. The water tank manages the water
pressure and pressure varies with the water level in the tank. He said during
peak use periods the tank will make up the difference in the level and the
water pressure. Adolf said the water pressure in the upper floor would be
marginal and the plumbing system in the building should have a booster pump
to pump the water up. He said this should be included in the plumbing design
for the building.
Adolf stated the existing Lift Station #3 is in the county right-of-way and
would have to be relocated. He said it is the presumption that this will be the
developer's expense. Olson confirmed the development would bear the cost
of the public improvements that will be located on the property.
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• Anderson said Mason expressed concern with the trees on the east end of the
property by the north building. Mason asked if it was possible to maintain
some of the tall trees to create some kind of a buffer at the property line.
Olson said they would to maintain appropriate vegetation that is in scale with
the rest of the property.
Hughes asked if any residents had any questions. Sarah Reinhardt, West Arm
Road, asked what type of commercial business is allowed and what is
anticipated. Brixius said this is a C-1 District which allows for a full range of
uses and they want something that would fit into the character of the area.
Olson said they have looked at what is compatible with the residential area
and hope to replace what is there now. He added they would like "Class A"
type tenants because it is prime retail.
Sippel spoke as a resident regarding the color and stated he prefers the current
shade of yellow (tan) shown on the building tonight. Mason asked how many
balconies will be located on the east side of the north building and was told
20. Aschinger asked how many additional stairways will be in front of the
south building and was told there would be one at each end and two more in-
between.
Klein asked the hours that would be designated for unloading. Brixius said
• they would be off hours for businesses. He stated the retail spaces are small
and will not have a lot of deliveries. Aschinger asked if the driveway is at
grade or will drop down to the parking. Brixius said there is an 11% drop in
the grade.
3. Close Public Hearing
Motion by Anderson seconded by Klein to close the public hearing at 9:10
p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. Recommendation to Council
Brixius said the applicant has requested a preliminary plat that will combine
the eight properties, the vacated portion of Del Otero Avenue and a portion of
the county right-of-way into a single lot. The findings are the site is properly
zoned for the uses proposed by the applicant and the proposed plat meets
zoning standards for lot combination in a C-1 District.
The "Conditions of Approval" are found on page 10 of the City Planner's
report prepared by Northwest Associated Consultants dated October 7, 2004,
conditions #1 thru #7 with an addition to #6 that would include in the
purchase agreement for a condo that ownership of permanent docks is not
• included in the ownership of a condo. Klein asked if the development has to
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keep Del Otero open. Brixius said there would be an easement that makes it
available for public traffic.
Motion by Klein seconded by Anderson that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council that the application for the Cornerstone
Group for a preliminary plat and lot combination be approved subject to
the provisions and conditions contained in the City Planner's report
dated October 7, 2004 prepared by Northwest Associated Consultants,
Inc. regarding the Spring Park Condominium project including the
above mentioned amendment(s). Upon roll call Anderson, Nelson, Klein,
Hughes,Aschinger and Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
Brixius stated the applicant has applied for a CUP for Residential and Non-
Residential uses in the same principal structure (mixed use). Brixius referred
to page 11 and 12 of the above-mentioned report, and the recommendations
listed in items #1 thru#5. He noted the Findings of Fact are on page 12, items
#1 thru #5 in the same report, and the Conditions of Approval on page 12 and
13, items #1 thru#9. Sippel stated it makes sense to have parking stalls in the
north building for large trucks so they do not obstruct businesses. Brixius said
this could be part of a lease agreement. Brixius said Conditions #3 would also
include a detailed stormwater calculation and redirect the drainage from the
roof of the north building to the retention basins. He added to delete the
• "engineer from#4 (lighting plan).
Aschinger added her concern with accessory equipment on the roof being seen
from the lake (item #7 on page 13). Hughes noted the developer stated at a
previous work session one satellite dish was going to be used for the entire
building. The Cornerstone Group assured this would be done. Brixius said
item # 7 would add "lake view". He added the expense of the relocation of
the lift station would be borne by the developer. Hughes expressed concern
with the site lines coming out of the south building access with the location of
the fence. The fence will be set back further (adding item#10).
Motion by Anderson seconded by Aschinger that the Planning
Commission recommend to the City Council that the application of the
Cornerstone Group for a conditional use permit to allow residential and
nonresidential uses in the same principal structure be approved subject to
the provisions and conditions contained in the City Planner's report
dated October 7, 2004 prepared by Northwest Associated Consultants,
Inc. regarding the Spring Park Condominium project including the
above mentioned amendment(s). Upon roll call Anderson, Nelson, Klein,
Hughes,Aschinger and Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
Brixius stated the applicant has applied for a CUP for excess height per the
• City ordinance for both buildings. He noted the recommendations listed on
page #14, the Findings of Fact are on page 15, items #1 thru #5, and the
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• Conditions of Approval on page 15 of the above-mentioned report. Brixius
recommended including to item #3 in the Findings of Fact "setback from the
lake" and add the building and site plan be reviewed by the fire marshal.
Motion by Klein seconded by Nelson that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council that the application of the Cornerstone
Group for a conditional use permit to allow both the south and the north
buildings to exceed three stories or 40 feet in height be approved subject
to the provisions and conditions contained in the City Planner's report
dated October 7, 2004 prepared by Northwest Associated Consultants,
Inc. regarding the Spring Park Condominium project including the
above mentioned amendments. Upon roll call Anderson, Nelson, Klein,
Hughes, Sippel voted aye and Aschinger voted no.
At this point Klein asked to change her vote. Hughes asked for a second roll
call as he had not declared a pass or fail condition.
Upon the second roll call Anderson, Nelson, Hughes and Sippel voted aye
and Klein and Aschinger voted no. Motion declared carried.
Brixius stated the applicant has applied for a vacation of a portion of Del
Otero Avenue. He noted the Findings of Fact and Conditions of Approval on
• page 16 of the above-mentioned report. Hughes asked if this is where the
language regarding snow removal, etc. should be placed. Sippel pointed out
this is private property whereas Spring Street is public property.
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Nelson that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Council that the application of the Cornerstone
Group for the vacation of a portion of Del Otero Avenue as shown on the
plans and specifications be approved subject to the provisions and
conditions contained in the City Planner's report dated October 7, 2004
prepared by Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc. regarding the Spring
Park Condominium project. Upon roll call Anderson, Nelson, Klein,
Hughes,Aschinger and Sippel voted aye. Motion declared carried.
b) Floodplain Ordinance—Head, Seifert& Vander Weide— 10/5/04
1. Open Public Hearing
Chair Hughes opened the public hearing at 9:27 p.m. He read the notice
published in the Laker Newspaper September 25, 2004.
And summary
2. Discussion& Comments
Seifert stated FEMA runs the floodplain insurance program and they required
the state to change their ordinances. It was decided to adopt a model
ordinance the DNR created per the Federal program. This amendment makes
• it consistent with the Spring Park ordinance, has been reviewed by the DNR
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• and approved by FEMA and adoption of the amendment maintains the City's
eligibility for floodplain insurance.
Hughes asked what part of the City does this cover. Siefert said all or most of
Spring Park is covered. Weeks said map numbers are available and they
incorporate low lying properties especially part of Budd Lane, Marina Center,
and Island Drive, etc. and language fits into any homeowners insurance that
we are covered. Sippel referred to the top of page five, Floodway District and
Flood Fringe district. He asked at what point does this ordinance not apply.
Weeks said there are not many properties to which it does not apply. He
added the flood fringe is not clearly defined by measurement.
Sippel asked how this is enforced if lines are not defined and lines no longer
apply. Aschinger asked if this amendment changes the current floodplain
requirement in the City. Weeks pointed out the new house construction on
Budd Lane did have to comply. Sippel asked what mechanism triggers a
compliance check. Weeks said it could be the DNR or Building Inspector.
Hughes expressed concern with receiving material on short notice and
expected to make a recommendation to the Council. He asked if this was
available in September, why is the Planning Commission just receiving it.
Weeks said the City has been working on this for a couple of months and
• there are only some small "housekeeping' changes. Hughes stated he does not
have a problem with the ordinance, just the process. Seifert said any
amendment not initiated by the Planning Commission it has to go before the
Planning Commission in a public hearing.
Hughes read the summary of the proposed amendment prepared by head,
Seifert& Vander Weide dated October 5, 2004.
3. Close Public Hearing
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Anderson to close the public hearing at
9:46 p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. Recommendation to Council
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Anderson to recommend to the City
Council the adoption of the proposed Amendment and Restatement of
Ordinance 51, the Floodplain Management Ordinance. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
c) Sign Permit Application—Bayside Floral, 4310 Shoreline Drive & Staff Memo
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• Motion by Klein seconded by Aschinger to approve the sign permit
application for Bayside Floral, 4310 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried.
6. NEW BUSINESS & COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Special Meeting Minutes—8/26/04
b) Special Staff Meeting Minutes—8/30/04
c) Council Minutes—9/17/04
d) Special Meeting Minutes—9/16/04
e) Special Meeting Minutes—9/17/04
f) Council Minutes—9/20/04
g) Special Meeting Minutes—9/29/04
h) Building & Sign Report—August 2004
i) Building & Sign Report—September 2004
j) City Calendar October
k) Channel 8 Schedule October
1) Council Minutes— 10/4/04
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Klein inquired about Lakeview Lofts request for TIF funds. Hughes said there was
some change in the language that allowed the Council to address it. Klein said the
• Planning Commission was not needed for the TIF request but are needed for sign
permit applications. Hughes pointed out sign permits are one thing the Planning
Commission can approve.
In another matter Hughes pointed out City Hall needs some interior renovation and
as a Planning Commission we can start thinking about what plans we would want to
see. Weeks said he could get proposals from architects to the Planning Commission
to review. Hughes said they would like to become a part of the process.
In still another matter Hughes requested, and submitted in writing, a request for an
Opticom Control System on the traffic lights for emergency vehicles to be a budget
item. He clarified this would be the City's expense and not the county's. He said
such system will be installed at County Road's 15 and 19.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Aschinger seconded by Klein to djourn the meeting at 9:55 p.m. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried
IL AM D. WEEKS SHARON CORL
• ADMINISTRATOR/CLERK/TREASURER DEPUTY CLERK
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AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 10, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —October 13, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Design & Layout Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive
(Tonka Ventures Bldg.)
b) Sign Permit Application—Snap Fitness, 4144 Shoreline Drive (Tonka Ventures
• Bldg.)
c) Roll Call Order
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a) Council Minutes— 10/18/04
b) Council/Budget Minutes— 10/25/04
c) November Calendar
d) LMCC Fall Newsletter
e) MCWD Newsletter
f) Channel 8 Schedule
g) Resolution 04-29—Review &Declaration of Canvass Board
h) Election Stats
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER 10,2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
Chair Hughes called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the pledge of
allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Mork Bredeson, Anderson,Nelson, Klein, Hughes, Sippel and Ex-officio Stone were
present and Aschinger was absent. Staff present: Deputy Clerk Corl.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Nelson seconded by Mork Bredeson to adopt the agenda. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —October 13, 2004
Motion by Klein seconded by Nelson to approve the minutes for the Planning
Commission Meeting October 13, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion declared
carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Sign Permit Application—Design & Layout Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive
(Tonka Ventures Building)
The discussion was on the location on the building this sign is going to be placed.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Sippel to approve the sign permit
application for Design & Layout Services, 4144 Shoreline Drive. All votes
were aye. Motion declared carried unanimously.
b) Sign Permit Application — Snap Fitness, 4144 Shoreline Drive (Tonka Ventures
Bldg.)
Hughes said there are issues with this sign permit application. He said he
• personally inspected this sign closely. Hughes is recommending the following:
The sign is an after the fact sign; It violates requirements of the sign ordinance in
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• that the applicant did not obtain Planning Commission approval prior to
installation of the sign; For that reason the Planning Commission is requesting
the City Building Inspector to inspect the sign in accordance with MN building
code and recommend a letter be written to the business owner and copy the
property owner regarding the inappropriate procedure for approval of the sign
prior to the installation.
Mork Bredeson asked if there were any concerns with the sign itself and what the
problems were with the construction. Hughes if the electrical was not installed
properly it could create a fire hazard and a concern for safety. He said in reading
the ordinance it alludes to the fact that permits should have been pulled plus there
is the issue of the arrogance of not going thru the proper channels.
Hughes said we have to review the sign to see if it meets the ordinance and his
concern is the fact it was installed prior to approval. It was noted the City does
not require a building permit for most signs; the sign meets the ordinance but the
City has to inform the business and the owner the process was not followed.
Mork Bredeson asked if it is within our means to send the Building Inspector to
inspect the sign to see if there is a safety issue. She said a letter should be written
to the tenant. It was clarified the sign company expressed the arrogance not the
tenant. Hughes said the issues are to approve the sign, how to communicate with
the tenant/owner and incorporate the building inspector into this.
• Motion by Klein seconded by Mork Bredeson to approve the sign permit
application for Snap Fitness, 4144 Shoreline Drive. All votes were aye.
Motion declared carried unanimously.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Hughes to draft a communication
with the owner/tenant at the above mentioned address.
In discussion Sippel said he was against sending such a letter because the owner
went through the process, and it was the sign company that did not. He added a
letter would show that the City is not business friendly. Hughes said he just
understood the sign company expressed the arrogance with not going through the
permit process. Sippel pointed out this same thing happened when H & H Meats
applied for a sign permit and used their permanent sign as their temporary sign
also because they did not want to wait for the Planning Commission to review it.
Hughes said the issue now is the sign should be inspected.
Mork Bredeson withdrew the motion and Hughes agreed.
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Hughes to recommend the Building
Inspector inspect the sign and review the installation. Upon roll call Mork
Bredeson, Anderson, Nelson, Klein, Hughes, and Sippel voted aye. Motion
declared carried unanimously.
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• Anderson asked if the $200 fine is being assessed. Hughes requested the minutes
reflect the City has a policy that all permanent signs installed prior to approval are
subject to a $200 fine. He also requested the staff review this to see if the fine is
appropriate for this case.
c) Roll Call Order
Hughes requested this be put on the agenda based on some of the votes the
Planning Commission has had in the past. The Deputy Clerk said the roll call
order is in seniority order and subject to change. Hughes asked this to be open for
discussion. Anderson said he did not think anybody here is influenced by anyone
else's vote. Hughes asked if the order makes a difference with the
Commissioners. Klein said she did not mind changing the order. Hughes said the
intent is to put it on the table for discussion for the future. Mork Bredeson said
each Commissioner acts as an individual and not influenced by another's vote and
she does not have a problem with the way it is or with changing it. Anderson said
he did not have a problem with the order.
6. COMMUNICATONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Minutes— 10/18/04
Klein referred to the issue of the dock rights and asked why it is such an issue and
if it was out of the City's hands. Stone said the LMCD is in charge of the docks.
• Klein said she has not seen any effort on behalf of the City regarding the issue and
she would like to see the paper work that was referenced. Nelson said the rights
are in the deeds of the property owners. Klein stated she wanted to see something
in writing from the LMCD stating that only 27 docks are allowed. Hughes asked
what document the City Attorney was requesting. Stone said it was a copy of an
easement that county property can be crossed to get to the docks. Klein would
like to see a document from the LMCD. The Deputy Clerk will get a copy of the
easement from the county for the Planning Commission. Sippel asked if the
Developer's Agreement has been signed with Lakeview Lofts and was told it has
been.
b) Council/Budget Minutes— 10/25/04
c) November Calendar
d) LMCC Fall Newsletter
e) MCWD Newsletter
f) Channel 8 Schedule
g) Resolution 04-29—Review& Declaration of Canvass Board
h) Election Stats
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Hughes referred back several months when the Council requested the Planning
Commission to make a recommendation on outdoor storage, etc. He pointed out a
resident sent a letter of complaint for the last Council meeting about the mud and dirt
• sliding down to the sidewalk on Shoreline Drive (from 4388 Shoreline Drive). He
added Alan Brixius, the City Planner, had pointed out storage should not be on green
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• space and no action has been taken. Hughes also pointed out the property owner has
a temporary sign that may be illegal. Mork Bredeson said it is not necessarily no
action,just no developments have happened and suggested the Deputy Clerk review
the Planning Commissions recommendation back then. The ordinance for outside
storage and lack of was briefly discussed. Hughes said he was not looking for
formal action,just to get this subject back on the table.
In another miscellaneous matter Hughes pointed out when a new business comes into
the City there is no type of an occupancy process for them to follow. He said there
should be a list for a new business so they know what the City requires. Mork
Bredeson said the City's objective should be to find out what type of business it is,
etc. Klein asked what other cities do regarding new businesses. Mork Bredeson has
a business in Long Lake and said she was asked what types of materials she would
be handling and trash disposal but that was all. Hughes stated the City should be
concerned with occupancy, violations in the building, different uses. He said there
should be a list. Stone said the Council talked about the fire marshal inspecting new
businesses.
Klein asked for an update on the painting of the water tower and asked if the City
logo is going to be on it. She said there is a campaign to save the smiley face. Stone
said the Council voted on the logo to be on the tower but has heard it would be
brought up again.
• Hughes formerly welcomed Councilperson Elect Reinhardt in attendance at the
meeting.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Mork Bredeson seconded by Klein to adjourn the meeting at 8:24
p.m. All votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
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SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
AGENDA
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 8, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Pledge of Allegiance
2. ROLL CALL
3. ADOPT AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—November 10, 2004
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Landscaping/Screening, Outdoor Sales, Storage in Commercial District
1. Info From Previous Meetings
6. COMMUNICATIONS
• a) Council Meeting Minutes— 11/4/04
b) Council Meeting Minutes— 11/15/04
c) Budget Meeting Minutes— 11/16/04
d) Special Meeting Minutes— 11/23/04
e) Building & Sign Report—October
f) December Calendar
g) Channel 8 Schedule
h) Copy of Deed for Dock Rights on Henn. Co. Property on Shoreline Drive
(6/24/47)
7. MISCELLANEOUS
8. ADJOURNMENT
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• CITY OF SPRING PARK
SPRING PARK, MINNESOTA
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 8, 2004
7:30 P.M.—CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Acting Chair Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. followed by the
Pledge of Allegiance.
2. ROLL CALL
Anderson, Nelson, Klein, Aschinger, Sippel and Ex-Officio Stone were present and
Hughes was excuse and Mork Bredeson was absent. Staff present: Deputy Clerk
Corl.
Anderson duly noted a moment of silence for Gary Hughes son-in-law.
3. ADOPT AGENDA
• Motion by Klein seconded by Aschinger to adopt the agenda. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —November 10, 2004
Motion by Sippel seconded by Aschinger to approve the minutes for the
Planning Commission Meeting November 10, 2004. All votes were aye. Motion
declared carried.
5. PLANNING COMMISSION
a) Landscaping/Screening, Outdoor Sales, Storage in a Commercial District
1. Info From Previous Meetings
Anderson stated we could discuss this now or move to table it for a joint
meeting.
Motion by Klein seconded Nelson to table the discussion on
Landscaping/Screening, Outdoor Sales, and Storage in a Commercial
District and refer it to a joint meeting with the Council. All votes were
aye. Motion declared carried.
Sippel referred to the information provided in the packet and said he finds it
• easier to edit rather than to compose and would like to see a proposed
suggestion or objective. It was suggested to just review the two
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• recommendations from NAC. It was also noted the information provided was
also showing the timeline history of discussions on the subject. Klein
suggested each Commissioner go through the material and pick out pertinent
information for discussion at a later date. Anderson agrees and a work session
with the Council on this subject would be worthwhile.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
The following communications were noted:
a) Council Meeting Minutes— 11/4/04
Klein referred to page 4, item 3 and verified the solar study was for the Mist
property. She referred to the critical time in December when the shadow
extended over to Northern Avenue and asked if this meant all winter long. Stone
said the winter solstice is the worst-case scenario and the shadow did not go
across Northern just a part of it. She said actually there are three or four days that
are the worst days. It was noted the Utility Superintendent would review the
street conditions at that time of year to see if sanding would be needed.
Beth verified the county document for the docks is just for information. Klein
said she requested a copy.
Klein noted the Council questions Norling's bills frequently. Stone said at one
• time we were not getting monthly bills so when they did come an explanation was
needed. She said the bills are now going to be done on a monthly basis and the
Council is also receiving an itemized explanation of the bill. Stone added Goman
is reviewing the bills before they are paid because he is out and about and can see
what work is being done.
b) Council Meeting Minutes - 11/15/04
Aschinger referred to the force main crossing at Sunset Drive into the middle of
the road and asked if they going to have road closings. Stone said no and
explained it made sense to do this when everything was dug up. She added after
the project had started contamination was discovered and work had to be halted.
Stone said the county said if the City is going into their right of way it has to be
blacktopped, this is the end of the season and blacktop plants are closing. She
said there is no contamination in that portion of the project. She demonstrated on
the board the current angle and proposed angle of the force main showing the
change made sense to move it. Aschinger said she thought they knew about the
contaminated soil. Stone said they did not do soil borings in the street and the
contamination seems to be on the south side.
c) Budget Meeting Minutes— 11/16/04
d) Special Meeting Minutes— 11/23/04
• Aschinger noted there are many different fund sources for money. She added
there seemed to be no estimates of new revenues mentioned in the minutes. She
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asked if there was a balance sheet, etc. Stone said the reason for the meeting was
to discuss the financing the water tower and to also looking at the expense of Lift
Station 6. She noted Williamson was insistent the situation is reviewed after the
tower is constructed before any choice is made to increase fees. Aschinger
referred to the missing TIF money and as a taxpayer she was interested and
concerned and confident the Council had a greater understanding of the different
funds and the City's financial situation than the minutes indicated.
Anderson pointed out that unless a person is at the meeting you do not always get
the full information and full meaning of what occurred. He added it is good to
ask the questions being asked.
Sippel asked why the meeting was on 11/23/04 to decide on paying for the water
tower after construction started. He said he did not understand purchasing
something and then decide how to pay for it. Stone said the Council was
confident the City had the funds to pay for it; it was a matter of which terms
would be used. She said they were waiting to see what the interest rates would be
and their decision to wait was on the advise of the City's financial planner.
7. MISCELLANEOUS
Stone noted this was her last Planning Commission Meeting and said she enjoyed
working with the Commissioners. Likewise sentiments were expressed from the
. Commissioners.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Klein seconded by Aschinger to adjourn the meeting at 8:03 p.m. All
votes were aye. Motion declared carried.
SHARON CORL
DEPUTY CLERK
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